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Re: Possible Salary Reduction for Players [Re: SilverFox1] #605479
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The sides can posture all they want, I just wish they did it behind closed doors, making this dispute public makes both sides look bad. The players were dopes for suggesting the 112 games. How do they expect more games to make more money when the stands are empty?

I'm waiting to make a decision on whether to take the refund or the 2021 credits but watching the rich owners fight with the rich players really makes me want to pull my cash out.

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With proratred salaries, the 50-or-so game schedule would get the salaries down to the level the owners had originally proposed, while letting the players claim they got their prorated salary. Clever, but a bad idea.

If the owners say they'll lose money, open the books and prove it.

Right now, both the owners and players are destroying the game. Is it time to start taking another look at the antitrust exemption?


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Originally Posted by TBP
With proratred salaries, the 50-or-so game schedule would get the salaries down to the level the owners had originally proposed, while letting the players claim they got tehir prorated salasy. Clever, but a bad idea.

If the owners say they'll lose money, open the books and prove it.

Right now, both the owners and players are destroying the game. Is it time to start taking another look at the antitrust exemption?


Yep, the issue is tying the salaries to the number of games, the numbers don't work when there are no ticket sales, but the rich Boras players don't care they just want their money.

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Open the books, my ass. The owners are not destroying the game to the extent that the players threaten to. You have a business where a HUGE chunk of dollars is gone because paying customers are prohibited. That's a legit concern to the owners. No one knew back in March that there would be fan-less games. But the players to this point want to be paid like it's a 162 game season: "We want ALL of the gain and NONE of the pain".


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Originally Posted by PowerBoater69
Yep, the issue is tying the salaries to the number of games, the numbers don't work when there are no ticket sales, but the rich Boras players don't care they just want their money.


That + all of their BS "concern" about catching COVID. Yeah, so concerned about it that they proposed a 112 game season that pushes the playoffs into late November, when the flu season is surging. Bro, I'm risking my life.

Owners are saying the season will finish in October. No November baseball, it's flu season then. MLBTradeRumors.com excerpt: the league has concerns that additional spikes in COVID-19 cases could jeopardize the postseason, where they’d stand to make considerable revenue from national television broadcasts (particularly with an expanded playoff field).




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I could see the World Series going into November in a neutral location. I think that 50 games is fine for the regular season but it would be int to have 112, with daily double headers. I'd have to set up a TV in my office.

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Owners definitely taking note of this: 2 players in Japan just tested Covid positive on the FIRST day of EXHIBITION baseball there. Both quarantined. Bro, I’m not playing unless I get mine


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The owners rejected the players' offer and don't plan on making a counteroffer. They may just implement the schedule they want.

This is a bad sign, not only for 2020, but long-term.


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The latest, widely expected step in the exhausting back-and-forth between Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association became official today, as the league has formally rejected the union’s proposal for a 114-game season with prorated salaries, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic tweets.

Moreover, the league has no plans to even extend a counter-proposal.

The commissioner’s office has begun speaking with owners about implementing a shortened season, Rosenthal adds, and hopes to have similar talks with the union (rather than a negotiation regarding season length).

Owners contend that ommissioner Rob Manfred can seek to unilaterally impose a shortened season if the union won’t budge from its prorated salary demands, and it appears that’s where they’re leaning, per the New York Post’s Joel Sherman. Either a 48- to 54-game season with fully prorated salaries or an 82-game season at less than prorated salaries are under consideration.

-- MLBTradeRumors.com excerpt


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Blake Snell can suck on a pro rata pay system and like it.


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