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What if we have 3 good starting pitchers? #612486
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It's possible with what's swirling around. Means and the kids who came up. Without sifting turds from the free agent piles. 3 good starters and any offense at all puts you at .500. Santander, Mountcastle and Mancicni. A little Hays. Hell, just pass up the opportunity to make a dozen unforced stupid mistakes on the bases. Might be a fun .500. We have all those killer pitchers percolating in the minors. A whole staff worth.

Maybe he who shall not be mentioned, but eats kippers, will put in an appearance. Batting fourth, playing by himself, number no number, Kierston Keerstag. Great souvenir jersey. We rode through the draft on a prospect with no name. And his record, an invisible shame.

The PR people have bobbleheads for Palmer, and I swear, the oriole bird. So you know what they're thinking. Free beer night.


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I think they will stink again in 2021. Weak sticks at ss, second base and questionable at third base. I'm not really expecting Adley to make a big impact next year. Our catching situation sucks. Severino is not consistent and his defense below par. Cisco sucks. Who's on first? The outfield looks decent, but probably just a little better than average. We will see about the rotation, but I don't have high hopes for them next year. The bullpen will probably be below average. I like Brandon Hyde, but as they say, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sheet.

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That's my alternative prediction.


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They have a couple of borderline ML-level hitting infielders and maybe one w/come thru. But I see hitting weakness in the infield, too.Pitching c/b real good, but even if it is, it's probably wasted because of weak bats.Sevy w/b a catching all star if they didn't play the final month of seasons.

I don't see Rutchsman or Y. Diaz doing anything this year.

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Originally Posted by BaseBawl
It's possible with what's swirling around. Means and the kids who came up. Without sifting turds from the free agent piles. 3 good starters and any offense at all puts you at .500. Santander, Mountcastle and Mancicni. A little Hays. Hell, just pass up the opportunity to make a dozen unforced stupid mistakes on the bases. Might be a fun .500. We have all those killer pitchers percolating in the minors. A whole staff worth.

Maybe he who shall not be mentioned, but eats kippers, will put in an appearance. Batting fourth, playing by himself, number no number, Kierston Keerstag. Great souvenir jersey. We rode through the draft on a prospect with no name. And his record, an invisible shame.

The PR people have bobbleheads for Palmer, and I swear, the oriole bird. So you know what they're thinking. Free beer night.


The big question is: do we have 3 really good starters in our system BB?

BTW, what about all those international signings from a couple of years ago? Anyone in the system jet?

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Kremer, Akin and Zimmerman debuted last year. Means is here. Gives us a shot at 3.


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Bill, check Delmarva and Frederick pitching stats. We have a some very good pitching down there.


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I will, thanks guys

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I'm not completely sold on Kremer yet.

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He had some flashes of super. Zimmerman was a little random. Baumann's ouchie elbow worries me the most.


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These young guys are up and down. I think they showed a lot in their brief time.


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I checked the 2019 numbers of those two teams and they are not bad, long way to go but they look promising Mike.

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Good amount of pitching.


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I have checked the Bowie stats too especially from the starters and they are not bad too.

Zac Lowther GS 26 ERA 2.55 SO 154 WHIP 1.11
Alexander Wells GS 24 ERA 2.95 SO 105 WHIP 1.07
Bruce Zimmermann GS 17 ERA 2.58 SO 101 WHIP 1.20
Dean Kremer GS 15 ERA 2.98 SO 87 WHIP 1.23
Michael Baumann GS 11 ERA 2.31 SO 65 WHIP 0.94

It is a long time ago that I saw so many guys with an ERA below 3


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They shut Baumann down in whatever camp because of a forearm strain. Every elbow surgery in Oriole history was listed as a forearm strain to start. I am heartbroken about that one. Zim and Kremer came up last summer. Barring epic failure, they're here. Part of my three part monster. They protected Wells from the rule 5 draft. Two of our best monsters are younger. Grayrod and D.L. Hall.


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Akin's in there, too.

Baumann supposed to begin a throwing program right about now.

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Akin exceeded my expectations.


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Originally Posted by BaseBawl
They shut Baumann down in whatever camp because of a forearm strain. Every elbow surgery in Oriole history was listed as a forearm strain to start. I am heartbroken about that one. Zim and Kremer came up last summer. Barring epic failure, they're here. Part of my three part monster. They protected Wells from the rule 5 draft. Two of our best monsters are younger. Grayrod and D.L. Hall.


I see Grayson Rodriguez was at Delmarva in 2019 with impressive numbers. Somehow Mike Elias is getting a bunch of decent arms true the draft and trades. perhaps there IS hope for the Orioles fan-base. cool

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Akin had bad numbers in his final yr. at Norfolk because they made him use his secondary pitches in all situations and he made mistakes.But it did him good in the long run.


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In last years draft our stupid GM passed over several stud college pitchers and a few very highly rated infielders, and reached down and drafted an outfielder who was not highly sought after, but was willing to sign cheap with our first pick. With the money he saved he drafted some players that were even lower rated. I have no confidence in him. He didn't pick a pitcher until the very last selection. Okay by me if they fire his ass.

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I don't understand his recent player moves at all.


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Originally Posted by mikezpen
I don't understand his recent player moves at all.


Perhaps that is why you are sitting on your sofa and he at a desk in the warehouse Mike... cool

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