Re: Indians to change their name
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We went through this with the Redskins. The media would repeatedly poll Native Americans on the name and they would overwhelmingly oppose change, and they would overwhelmingly NOT be offended. So the media would whitesplain to them why they were actually offended, but just didn't know it.
Nobody wants this except a few self-righteous, holier-than-thou #woke activists.
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They're still the INDIANS Did they change Cleveland instead? Maybe Wooden!
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Re: Indians to change their name
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Maybe they duped the cancel culture lowlifes...
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Re: Indians to change their name
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The Cleveland Native Americans.
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"Indians" is not a negative kind of name. True. Ask any Indian.
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Taking away the Indians name is racist and offensive. Vast, large majorities of "Native Americans" not only say they're not offended by "Native American" team names, but are proud of them, but #woke whitefolk (progressives) decided that they, and not the group in question, get to decide what offends the group in question, rather than the members of that group. That is racist.
I guess the affected minority not being offended interferes with the #progressives #VirtueSignalling and their superiority complex. #Totalitarians don't like it when you stand up to them, whether they're Cubans, Haitians, Chinese, or woke white progressives.
And then, they cheaped out and kept half the names ("dians.")
The Guardians name honors four statues at the end of the Lorain-Carnegie Bridge, called the Guardians of Traffic. The bridge lets out just short of Progressive Field. But those statues are modelled on statues at the palaces of Assyrian kings, who were SLAVEHOLDERS. Typical of progressives to honor slaveholders. Birds of a feather.
Sadly, the Democrats' view of minorities hasn't changed ONE IOTA since the day the party was founded almost 200 years ago. All that has changed is the adoption of new tactics forced on them by Republicans taking their "property" from them -- and the color of the hoods. As Candace Owens says, "Liberals believe they own black people -- still." Native Americans too, apparently.
Typical.
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Re: Indians to change their name
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A take on the Cleveland name controversy from an actual Indian, not a white person who decided what offended Indians without asking them. Polls show substantial majorities of "Native Americans" agree with her, and virtually every Indian I know shares a similar view. https://www.facebook.com/vanagilbert/posts/10219809436853083![[Linked Image]](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kixD6p4QzJ8/UWGAUaJTlqI/AAAAAAAAAb4/IjH1F43xIBw/s1600/Cleveland+Stadium+Indians.jpg) It’s a very sad day for Cleveland. Today we lay to rest the Cleveland Indians. The owners will now call the team the Cleveland Guardians, (should be the Cleveland Sell Outs.) Even though we saw it coming, and we should have been prepared, it still seems as if we’re losing a member of our family. For me the tribe represented something that I was able to identify with. Being Choctaw, it was a team who represented me, something to be proud of. But someone at the offices in Cleveland took the bait and decided it was now shameful to be Indian and I should be ashamed of who I am. I was born and raised in Cleveland area, spent 35 years there... the Cleveland Indians were the tribe that raised me. It was great to go to ball games and see others proud of a team that represented who I was as well. So many bonding friendships were made over Tribe games. Even when I moved from Ohio I continued to be a Tribe fan. Going to see them in Arlington when they played the Rangers. It was awesome seeing the number of people here who were Tribe fans when I moved to southeastern Oklahoma 15 years ago. (As well as Redskin, Chiefs and Braves fans.) These were teams who represented us. That is all a thing of the past now. A new generation has decided they are hurt and offended... sometimes it seems by the very light of day. I wish the City of Cleveland all the best with this decision to politicize baseball and remove a source of pride for so many. But since I have no tie to this new team or the statues on the bridge it represents, to me it’s just another team now. Cleveland has taken away the fun and excitement baseball was meant to be. RIP My Tribe. 😞 Well remember the good times.
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https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/20...-says-indians-name-change-is-disgusting/Portage County Sheriff Bruce D. Zuchowski today is speaking out against the Cleveland Indians changing their team name to the “Guardians” after the 2021 season. Zuchowski, whose wife is part Cherokee and Blackfoot says the Indians name does not offend American Indians.
“I felt compelled to make a statement on behalf of the silent majority,” Sheriff Zuchowski said. “For the past few days, the release has been weighing heavy on my mind with disappointment and hopelessness. I thought back to the roots of baseball – an American family tradition. Sometimes referred to as America’s National Pastime, the game of baseball has played an active role in our nation for centuries.”
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https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3979465/posts?page=32#32I’m Cherokee. But I’m NOT “on the role”, therefore NOT a member of the tribe. Because of the “Dawes Act”. Anyway... This recent crap about sports names are the same damned thing! These people doing these things don’t give a flying crap about us, it’s JUST an excuse to do what they want!
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Re: Indians to change their name
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https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3979465/posts?page=34#34Naming something after something or somebody usually expresses reverence.
Pretty much anybody would love to have a team named after them!
Are New England Patriots making derogatory statement about Patriots? Are lions, tigers. cardinals or oilers supposed to be upset?
I would think, the purging of “native” symbols from US sports is really derogatory to them!
By the way the main Navaho high school in AZ has a team named, guess what?, Redskins! Boy, those Navajos must hate Native Americans.
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Pathetic.
I'm betting this entire fiasco was engineered by WHITES. Of course. #Woke whites. They know what's offensive to minorities better than the minorities do. I guess it will have to be whitesplained to them.
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Of course woke whites know better than "People of Color" or POC. Woke whites constitute a whole little racist clique of their own. Exactly! There is no one more racist than #woke white people.
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https://twitter.com/CreasonJana/status/1564379042698219526[img]https://storage.googleapis.com/screenshotguru/twitter/1564379042698219526.png?GoogleAccessId=uploader%40screenshot-guru.iam.gserviceaccount.com&Expires=1661895011906&Signature=m1meobQjZtWL8rp8RcTFjJgX%2FcOdaHBIc24Tf5lTejaS%2BaqaqCBZI3%2FqzCshywgisOANfVhVY%2BgFPB%2Bk%2F6%2FdCZlRQ%2Fftegk4Gfkeknhv2qMqUzumApNo2qLurzcIvmZOI99xnaUYHo2gXxMxqGt8bEcyMZDAVj1ESSLNcZ1OSsIfDiwOYI8Oxs8RXmQEVp0WXxp9bdEalEoBao9wEk3M2ffwg0UVM4uVqJiEbXPh7uWWyhbDKOqLjDmAW3bNkIZi1bN%2F45zo0YggcmrWn6UJfiLUEGuJicoljMzB%2FTbUcsT2Y%2BoAlNauVRYflJd%2FCXrIJ4s%2B7wMf2idMvDyfhvcySw%3D%3D[/img]
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Re: Indians to change their name
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They must hate Native Americans.
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https://www.valleybreeze.com/opinio...c76ebd6-2b47-11ec-bd75-234c0c7bcb27.htmlI was reminded of a controversy last spring at Ponaganset High School as I drove through New Mexico on vacation two weeks ago. As The Breeze reported in May, “The issue (of Native American insult) arose again after members of the local Nipmuc tribe contacted the Rhode Island Commission on Prejudice and Bias to mediate with PHS for the removal of the mascot, which depicts the head of a chieftain wearing a headdress.”
I was driving through Shiprock, in northwest New Mexico, and noted that Shiprock High, right there on Route 64, was “Home of the Chieftains.” Interestingly, the school sat right in the middle of a Navajo reservation. You’d think Navajos might have had a say in that, and likely see no insult.
I checked in with Sports Editor Steven Bortstein at the Farmington (N.M.) Daily-Times to see if there had been a problem there with the name, as this new era of “offense” and political correctness sweeps the land. He replied, in part, “In my many discussions with people of different persuasions and political and social ideologies, the nickname Chieftains is not considered to be offensive to a majority of those I’ve spoken with. Those with whom I have spoken are not offended by Chieftains, they’re not offended by Warriors, they’re not offended by Chiefs or Indians.”
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https://www.newsmax.com/GeorgeWill/Native-Americans-Redskins-tolerance/2014/06/30/id/579957/Amanda Blackhorse, a Navajo who successfully moved a federal agency to withdraw trademark protections from the Washington Redskins because it considers the team's name derogatory, lives on a reservation where Navajos root for the Red Mesa High School Redskins. She opposes this name; the Native Americans who picked and retain it evidently do not. The Patent and Trademark Office acted on a 1946 law banning trademarks that "may disparage" persons. "May" gives the agency latitude to disregard evidence regarding how many people actually feel disparaged, or feel that others should feel disparaged. Blackhorse speaks of "the majority of Native American people who have spoken out on this." This would seem implausible even if a 2004 poll had not found that 90 percent of Native Americans were not offended by the Redskins' name. A 2013 AP-GfK poll showed that 79 percent of Americans of all ethnicities opposed changing it, and just 18 percent of "nonwhite football fans" favored changing it. The federal agency acted in the absence of general or Native American revulsion about "Redskins," and probably because of this absence. Are the Americans who are paying attention to this controversy comfortable with government saying, in effect, that if people are not offended, they should be, so government must decide what uses of language should be punished? In today's regulatory state, agencies often do pretty much as they please, exercising discretion unconstrained by law.
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White liberals: When a black person tells you he/she is not oppressed, don't whitesplain why they are. When Native Americans say that Native American team names don't offend them, don't whitesplain why they actually do. Stop telling minorities what their lived experience is.
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What do we make of white people who think it's their job
to tell black people how to be black to tell Native Americans what offends them to tell Latins how to be Latin?
Is there a word for that?
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Re: Indians to change their name
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There is a high school on the Navajo reservation, with a 98 percent Navajo student body, called Red Mesa High School. Their teams are called the Redskins. Boy, those Navajos must hate Native Americans!
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What do we make of white people who think it's their job
to tell black people how to be black to tell Native Americans what offends them to tell Latins how to be Latin?
Is there a word for that? Whether they admit it or not, white leftists are saying that non-white minorities don't know what's good for them, can't be trusted to carry ID so they can vote, don't know when they 're being insulted, can't meet white academic standards.... white supremacy alright!
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Re: Indians to change their name
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Bill once the left starts getting its way it never stops. It just gets ever more bizarre and demanding.
They chopped off a lot of heads in the French Revolution. But the people that began the head-chopping wound up getting their heads chopped of too as the Revolution got more and more radical.No loss there. But you see a repeat of that, here. You're right about "Indians".Nothing wrong with it. Some Native American organizations use "Indian" as their part of their name as a matter of fact. But the idiot-left got rid of that name, too because it never stop feeding on its stupidity.
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Re: Indians to change their name
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In the very unlikely event that Indianapolis were to get a major-league team, would they be allowed to use their minor league name?
And why aren't we making Indianapolis and Indiana change their names?
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What do we make of white people who think it's their job
to tell black people how to be black to tell Native Americans what offends them to tell Latins how to be Latin?
Is there a word for that? Whether they admit it or not, white leftists are saying that non-white minorities don't know what's good for them, can't be trusted to carry ID so they can vote, don't know when they 're being insulted, can't meet white academic standards.... white supremacy alright! Exactly -- and that's racist as it can be. Which surprises me not at all.
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I understand that they changed the Red Skins name, that is about the color of skin, that is a no go nowadays and I agree. Except that polls consistently showed large majorities of Native Americans were not offended. The most common adjective they chose to express their freelings was "proud." This wa another case of white people telling a minority group what does and does not offend that group.
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There is a high school in Arizona called Red Mesa High School. it is on the Navajo reservation and it's student body is 98% Navajo.
The Red Mesa athletic teams are called the Red Mesa Redskins.
Boy, those Navajos must hate Native Americans!
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