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Re: Win with Grace and Lose with Dignity [Re: mikezpen] #611023
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We went to a game in Lancaster, MikeP.
I have only ever driven by the Harrisburg stadium.
You cite the violence and rioting as proof of hate but seem to overlook the rightwing domestic terrorists who do more than burn buildings. The El Paso shooter killed 22 Hispanic people. The Las Vegas shooter killed 58 people. Dylan Roof killed 11 people.
The FBI has documented more killings by rightwing domestic terrorists in the last 20 years than by left wingers.
A lot of the riots were instigated by members of the Proud Boys and Boogaloo folks.


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Re: Win with Grace and Lose with Dignity [Re: Bill] #611061
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I hope we can get together a few times this summer and catch games.Bill...you too.It's been years, I guess.


Don't think so Mike, don't think I will ever visit the US again. Not that I don't like it anymore but I have seen it all. In those 15+ years, I have been from East to West, from North to south and everything in between. I also don't like long flights anymore. One exception, if the Orioles make it to the WS I could be persuaded. cool Always enjoyed out get together with all of you and of course with Steffie dearly missed.


Martin just call it the Democrats, with a capital, it's much more mature. People who vote for the Democratic party aren't dumb, they just see it in a different way than you.

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Re: Win with Grace and Lose with Dignity [Re: Bill] #611062
22/11/2020 14:09
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I regret that I never met you Bill.
You, and your son, have presented an alternate perspective on what used to be an American game that I appreciated.
And you, personally, have a tone and gentility to your posts that I value.
I appreciate what I take as a call for civility.
Given the huge chasm of political differences here, your call is heard, but difficult.
I will not characterize in detail our differences in the USA, but as a student of history, I am very afraid.
I have never called mikezp or martin a racist, although one martin post, about "clearing out" interlopers in GA did make me state that it was in the best tradition of the KKK.

You have not seen "all" of the US. Certainly not all of its natural wonders. I would love to visit the Southwest with a person coming here with fresh eyes.Or the South or Northwest.
My wife makes fun of me as she says I should find a date to travel with as she is less inclined. Given 50 years of putting up with me, she's entitled.
Why we are superior to the Hindu Kush or South Africa (which I toured with my daughter) to visit is certainly open to question.
And having lived in Europe for four years, I know that I came nowhere close to seeing even a smidgeon of the history or physical beauty there.
But you are welcome here.
And if I ever get back to Europe, I will certainly hold you to your invitation to your favorite pub.



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Re: Win with Grace and Lose with Dignity [Re: Bill] #611070
22/11/2020 15:16
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It's not questionable on Martin's racism, he's proud of it.


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Re: Win with Grace and Lose with Dignity [Re: pogo] #611076
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I invited many members of BPG to visit us in California and only Bill and Will have ever done so, Gary.
They are great guys.


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Re: Win with Grace and Lose with Dignity [Re: John Lease] #611077
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Originally Posted by John Lease
It's not questionable on Martin's racism, he's proud of it.


Still hung up on that????? Biden is white.... trump is white......Trump was robbed somehow equals racism in your mind.....



Re: Win with Grace and Lose with Dignity [Re: martin] #611084
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What he did against the Central Park 5 proved his racism.
As did the housing discrimination case brought against Trump and his father.
And the White Supremacists who have or are serving in his administration.
Or his admiration of Hitler


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Re: Win with Grace and Lose with Dignity [Re: Bill] #611086
22/11/2020 16:38
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What about his "black guy"? Doesn't that make up for it?


Among other things, Democratic governors would also stand in the way in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

Re: Win with Grace and Lose with Dignity [Re: DB 5] #611094
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Originally Posted by DB 5
I invited many members of BPG to visit us in California and only Bill and Will have ever done so, Gary.
They are great guys.

I will get there DB


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Re: Win with Grace and Lose with Dignity [Re: pogo] #611102
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Originally Posted by pogo
I regret that I never met you Bill.
You, and your son, have presented an alternate perspective on what used to be an American game that I appreciated.
And you, personally, have a tone and gentility to your posts that I value.
I appreciate what I take as a call for civility.
Given the huge chasm of political differences here, your call is heard, but difficult.
I will not characterize in detail our differences in the USA, but as a student of history, I am very afraid.
I have never called mikezp or martin a racist, although one martin post, about "clearing out" interlopers in GA did make me state that it was in the best tradition of the KKK.

You have not seen "all" of the US. Certainly not all of its natural wonders. I would love to visit the Southwest with a person coming here with fresh eyes.Or the South or Northwest.
My wife makes fun of me as she says I should find a date to travel with as she is less inclined. Given 50 years of putting up with me, she's entitled.
Why we are superior to the Hindu Kush or South Africa (which I toured with my daughter) to visit is certainly open to question.
And having lived in Europe for four years, I know that I came nowhere close to seeing even a smidgeon of the history or physical beauty there.
But you are welcome here.
And if I ever get back to Europe, I will certainly hold you to your invitation to your favorite pub.



Thanks for your kind words and for sure we will have a pint (or 2 cool) in O'Casey's The Hague when you visit the Netherlands.

That was fun David! Too bad you could not play in your softball game, would have loved to see you play first (I think) base.

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