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Giuliani, et. al. held press conference, and their evidence of electoral fraud is overwhelming.But never mind that.I'm asking you libs one question.

Checked MSNBC, CBS and CNN. They had other stuff on when I checked.Why didn't they show it? Didn't check ABC/NBC.


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Because their "evidence" is always fraudulent rumors. No real lawyers will touch them. They are 0 fer 2020 in courts.


Among other things, Democratic governors would also stand in the way in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

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Because if it is the same or similar to what was presented previously it isn't evidence, it's hearsay. And that is what the courts have said

mike. A very important note as you do not seem to check sources very well.
Giuliani has said all kinds of things at press conferences. THOSE items (unsupported lies and hearsay) WERE NOT PRESENTED IN COURT AS THEY WERE UNSUPPORTABLE LEGALLY.
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Okay, Chuck Todd recapped on MSNBC. "SNL skit". "Bonkers press conference." "Wild allegations." No evidence. None. They're now trying to delay certifications and get state legislators to nullify the results of their own elections. Outside of being suicidal in general, it's illegal for most states to do that. It's not going to happen. Meanwhile, some departments are starting to sneak information to Biden's people.


Among other things, Democratic governors would also stand in the way in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

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Don't air it because WE deem it false.Just like Communist China, isn't it?


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Or journalism. It's the kind of crap the commies do report.

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Among other things, Democratic governors would also stand in the way in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

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No more like Fascist Trump trying to overturn the Electoral College, MikeP.
He got his ass kicked in the election.
He needs to man up and concede.
Giuliani is a horrible attorney.
Funny how you had no trouble with Bush winning an election by 538 votes but can't handle Trump losing by 100s of 1000s of votes.
That makes you a Republican hypocrite.


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Originally Posted by pogo
Because if it is the same or similar to what was presented previously it isn't evidence, it's heresay. And that is what the courts have said

mike. A very important note as you do not seem to check sources very well.
Giuliani has said all kinds of things at press conferences. THOSE items (unsupported lies and heresay) WERE NOT PRESENTED IN COURT AS THEY WERE UNSUPPORTABLE LEGALLY.
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Let these go to court. These three sources are all fake news outlets.....



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Originally Posted by DB 5



Rudy is not the best to have out there but the other law firms dropped out due to death threats and threats of losing business.....There is NO DOUBT that major fraud happened in these states that he mentioned.The reason that these lawsuits have been thrown out is that he's wanting too many of the votes thrown out.....Did you see the way that the people in detroit acted when the two republicans didn't want to certify the numbers? The way that they acted proved that they are guilty of fraud...

The way that stacey AAAAbrams acted the other day was telling too, she is worried that they are gonna uncover their fraud.....



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Originally Posted by DB 5
No more like Fascist Trump trying to overturn the Electoral College, MikeP.
He got his ass kicked in the election.
He needs to man up and concede.
Giuliani is a horrible attorney.
Funny how you had no trouble with Bush winning an election by 538 votes but can't handle Trump losing by 100s of 1000s of votes.
That makes you a Republican hypocrite.


You're being kind DB. He's a racist, just like Trump.


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You mean like the Iraq War Veteran who said he fought so people could vote?
Funny how Katie Johnson and her family got death threats so she withdrew her rape case against Trump but two Republicans thought that the testimony from many Detroit voters was threatening.
You are a typical Trump Republican whiner.


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Who has your nut sack? We can try to get it back for you, so you can man up and admit defeat. Big defeat.


Among other things, Democratic governors would also stand in the way in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

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Asses kicked.


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for the first time in american history we might see an American president kicked out of the white house by force by the military...... This stuff is going to take a year to unpack and prove... and when it is exposed, Biden /harris may have to be kicked out of the WH by force....

Democrats are starting to come forward with stories of voter fraud... One of the things here... Trump has been right about all of this stuff, he's been laughed at and made fun of but the stuff has always been proven true and the media has always had it wrong..... this seems to be another case where it's gonna take a while before it comes out..... If Trump doesn't get back into the WH until this time next year will he still get 4 more years or just the rest of the term?



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Oh, you will see it a lot sooner than that when Trump is dragged out of the White House on January 20th.
Biden's son, Beau served in the military in Iraq.
No members of the Trump family has served in the military in 150 years.
Trump is despised by a majority of active military personnel.
Trump called WWI soldiers who died in France losers and suckers.
He mocked General Kelly's son at his graveside in. Arlington.
Far more retired Generals, Admirals and high ranking officers endorsed Biden than Trump. Almost two to one.
Finally, Trump never confronted Putin about him paying the Taliban to kill American soldiers in Afghanistan.
22 paid the ultimate price.


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I think Gulliani has hijacked Martin's screen name.


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True, CB.
That Martin claims to have been the smartest guy in his HS class still is an incredible claim.


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I take Martin about as seriously as I did billy raff when he used to post on the Orioles board.


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Originally Posted by DB 5
Oh, you will see it a lot sooner than that when Trump is dragged out of the White House on January 20th.
Biden's son, Beau served in the military in Iraq.
No members of the Trump family has served in the military in 150 years.
Trump is despised by a majority of active military personnel.
Trump called WWI soldiers who died in France losers and suckers.
He mocked General Kelly's son at his graveside in. Arlington.
Far more retired Generals, Admirals and high ranking officers endorsed Biden than Trump. Almost two to one.
Finally, Trump never confronted Putin about him paying the Taliban to kill American soldiers in Afghanistan.
22 paid the ultimate price.



Hunter served in the military too.....Trump won the vet amd active military vote 52 to 45 DB.....The losers and suckers story has been debunked and even the guy that wrote it admitted that it most likely wasn;t true....



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Originally Posted by DB 5
True, CB.
That Martin claims to have been the smartest guy in his HS class still is an incredible claim.


Not just a claim.... Zach is now kicking butt with both feet in high school.... is the youngest one in all of his classes but gym..He's become the one that they get out of class to fix things around the school like the school computers kinda the way that I did in elementary school .......unlike Joe Biden who was last in his class..... but hey we do have something in common with joe.... we never went to the black college or the church that he claimed to have gone to either......



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Trump had someone take his SATs.
So now Zack is the school chair arranger.
Some things never change.


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Really?
No member of the Trump family has served in the military in 150 years.
I don't know anyone whose family can claim that
Trump didn't get out of that suckers and losers comment because he claimed the weather was too bad for him to get to the celebration ib a phone call home to Melania.
Problem with that lie is that she was in France with him at the time.
Bullshit


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Originally Posted by DB 5
True, CB.
That Martin claims to have been the smartest guy in his HS class still is an incredible claim.


There was an interesting video about this phenomenon on Sci Show.


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No more like Fascist Trump trying to overturn the Electoral College, MikeP.
He got his ass kicked in the election.
He needs to man up and concede.
Giuliani is a horrible attorney.
Funny how you had no trouble with Bush winning an election by 538 votes but can't handle Trump losing by 100s of 1000s of votes.
That makes you a Republican hypocrite.


You're being kind DB. He's a racist, just like Trump.


I must be, because I think your side's agenda s/b burned to the ground.


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If you believe that Trump isn't a racist then maybe that makes you one, MikeP. Because Trump has had plenty of White Supremacists in his Administration. He also admires Hitler who definitely was a racist.
The Democratic agenda favors all kinds of people. The Republican one seems to favor the rich and corporations mainly.
Most of the laws which help people, workers, women, the middle class, seniors, the disabled have been proposed and passed by liberals.
Those favoring the rich and corporations were passed by conservatives.
You seem scared by Black people. Martin is the same way.


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Dave,
In an odd way you are to the right of me.
Your statement that (laws) " favoring the rich and corporations were passed by conservatives." while true, leaves out participation by liberals - or at least the Democratic Party.
Barack Obama was saddled with an economic collapse caused by bank deregulation and the mortgage crisis.
The bulk of his economic advisors were carryovers from Bush. Some through a lack of choice (FDIC).
But the bank bailout bill, a cooperative effort, forgot small investors, homeowners who had been screwed by predatory mortgages and overall the non-bank small business community.
My favorite Democrat, Elizabeth Warren, opposed leaving them out. Chuck Schumer did little but go along. Barney Frank brokered new Financial industry regulation supported by most at the time, due to the obvious misdeeds of the industry.
In reaction to that the Tea Party started as an anti-Bush/Wall Street movement. The Kochs & righty Repubs.took quick advantage, funding , organizing and turning it into a righty pressure movement.
My point is that the Democrats are not exempt, although hopefully they have gotten better. as much as we share scorn and hate for the Republican disdain for the bulk of America.


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Gary,
I agree with what you said about Democrats. Despite MikeP and Martin complaining about Obama being some radical guy, he really was a Centrist.


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Originally Posted by DB 5
Gary,
I agree with what you said about Democrats. Despite MikeP and Martin complaining about Obama being some radical guy, he really was a Centrist.

Yep. I wish to live long enough to experience an actual liberal administration and Court.


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Funny that the dominion voting machine didn't show up to testify before Congress today....... One report claims that they have fled the country.... If that's the case, and I'm saying IF.... that raises a red flag....I'm 100% sure that there was massive voter fraud in these states but I wanna see evidence on the machines.... I believe most of the fraud was done by humans not machines.... If you gentlemen think there was no fraud, then WHY did all of these states in question have to CHANGE THEIR VOTING LAWS just before the election in order for them to use these mail in ballots as a means of fraud?....



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Mail in ballots provide a nice paper trail for doing hand recounts. No chance of fraud. Sorry about your losses.


Among other things, Democratic governors would also stand in the way in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

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You mean all the Red States and Swing states Trump won in 2016?
The answer, idiot, is that we are in a pandemic.
Can you be more stupid?
They have changed a lot of things this year because of the virus in case you haven't noticed.
By the way, Diebold was charged with some pretty specific crimes in 2013.
You know. The Republican owned voting machine company.

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Originally Posted by BaseBawl
Mail in ballots provide a nice paper trail for doing hand recounts. No chance of fraud. Sorry about your losses.



This is the problem.... you can recount the ballots but once they are separated from the signatures you can't tell if they are legal ballots or not....SOOOO YES BIG CHANCE OF FRAUD.... And some of the republican ballots can be thrown away before being counted..... Gosh Bawl even the dems agree that the number one way to commit voter fraud is uh mail in ballots



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Give it up Martin. It's all over except for the crying. Biden got over SIX MILLION more votes than Rump. He has been rejected by the American people.


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The American people rejected Trump when he got 75 million votes.


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Biden got over SIX MILLION more votes than Rump.


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Take away the corpses, cardboard cut-outs and phantoms, and it's a lot closer.But even if you're absolutely correct, there's no way anybody can claim that the American people rejected Trump. not when he got 75 million votes.


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Fired. With prejudice.


Among other things, Democratic governors would also stand in the way in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

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Trump never got a positive approval rating his whole term, MikeP. So a majority of Americans rejected him his whole term.
Funny you would mention dead people voting since the one example of it being done was by a Republican in Luzerne County who tried to get a mail in ballot for his dead mother and got caught.


Trumpuppet cares only about increasing his wealth any way possible.
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Take away the stupid, desperate, conspiracy theories and America would be much better off.


Trump got his ass kicked.
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Need a replacement party for real Republicans.


Among other things, Democratic governors would also stand in the way in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

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Trump got his ass kicked.
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Originally Posted by mikezpen
The American people rejected Trump when he got 75 million votes.



Yes, because it is far fewer than what Biden got


Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
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Trump himself says it is, as shown in the link above.


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Originally Posted by mikezpen
The American people rejected Trump when he got 75 million votes.



Yes, because it is far fewer than what Biden got



...if you throw in phony ballots..


I just learned that my father, a hardcore Republican, is now voting Democrat. He never would have done that when he was alive.
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Which states are you accusing Republicans of cheating in?

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Among other things, Democratic governors would also stand in the way in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

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