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The VP debate #609504
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I look for harris to come prepared a few one line attacks on trump. She crumbles when she has to answer for her own record though..... I doubt that Biden will debate again because he doesn't want to give Trump another chance to expose how radical that he is...


sooo this will be it...


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Just as I predicted... Harris has a few misleading one liners and that's about it.. So far Pence winning this one


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Harris is reminding us why she was the first dumbocrat out of the race.... She's losing this big


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this is getting down to this issues and biden/harris lose on all of them


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Pence clearly won this one..... he missed a couple of opportunities to expose Harris's record.....


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Pence helped lose a few more women, but nobody moved the needle much. The fly is making him a laughingstock.

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Hope he debates for Trump in the next one.If he stands in, they have no excuse for a virtual debate. He'll have to debate Pence face to face.They'd better lock Pence in the closet in cellar and wrap him in a double plastic bag between now and then so he doesn't get infected.Biden can't be allowed to sit alone at home and read the answers (he'll know the questions in advance) off his teleprompter.


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Another thing. Did you pick up on the bias of some of the questions? They both s/have been given the same question first of all. The woman w/give Harris a non-threatening question whereby she could explain her position. The mod. w/then demand Pence answer an accusatory question about something wrong the administration supposedly did It was like, "How long have you been beating your wife?" In other words, she tried to place him on the defensive. Fortunately, he saw thru that and said what he wanted.


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Yeah, he lost more women. Just what they weren't shooting for.

Just kidding about a presidential debate without the president? Biden gets a stand-in too. Bart Simpson. I never understood why Biden agreed to debate. Why in hell he'd finish the series is even more mystifying. Sit back, stand by, let Trump keep running into the wrong end zone.

I hope Trump survives the election. He's the antichrist. Democrats are voting like hell. If he croaks, it'll slightly decrease their mania.


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What did he say? Invest in wire coat hangers if Trump wins?

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martin's view is contradicted by most observers - and me.
I thought that Harris did better, but that she missed multiple chances to nail Pence.
On Covid. "On multiple occasions the administration has issued political statements on the crisis that purported to come from the CDC and other health agencies.
The countyr's own health experts have been forbidden from putting out warnings. Why?"
"Hundreds of ranking soldiers and diplomats, many apolitical or previously serving Republicans have come out in support of Biden as they say Trump policy has been a disaster. Comment."
"Trump has promised a replacement health care plan, a plan to protect DACA kids, and plans to deal with multiple issues that he has not even drafted. Why believe that he has any plan for anything?"
Trump 's admin has started to admit that there are climate problems, but has loosened dozens of evvironmental restrictions and not tightened anything. Why?
"Trump consistently uses slur words to attack anyone who disagrees with him. And then says he wants to work together. Is he nuts?" (actually that's my question.)
"Mr Veep. You have been asked 6 direct questions here that you have not answered in the slightest (List them) You have no answers.

Harris avoided one question that Pence totally ignored, that either candidate would be the oldest ever to be inaugarated if elected and what does that say about the role of the Veep? Pence could have said that he is there and ready,
but that would have acknowledged the implication of the question, that B & T are old & might die. Probably Harris avoided it for the same reason.

Pence talking over and refusing to stop or answer questions offended almost everyone, even on FOX. So why think he won?

I somewhat agree that Pence was asked more hard questions. But he represents the incumbent and as such has policies to speak to.
That should have been an ADVANTAGE, but it wasn't as they have no policiy except cut taxes on the rich & on companies to boost the economy. Harris did allright on that one.
Oh, and to pack the court. Harris was ready to lay that one on Pence (Quoting Lincoln smile ) Harris was accused of Dem plans to pack the SC. I think that she should just have said no. But Pence didn't answer a single question she asked him, so why should she respond? If she had, Pence would have quoted some obscure Dem who has actually suggested adding to the numbers.

So that's two debates lost by Dump & mini-Dump. And now the Dumper refuses to do another - not even suggesting alternatives to deal with the problems others see. Somone brighter than he must be wanting to stop further disasters.


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I will not miss them.


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When she replied about not taking a Trump approved vacccine, she should have mentioned that she also wasn't going to inject Lysol, take that hydrocchloriphine (I know I spelled that wrong), or wait for the sun light to kill the virus.


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Pogo ,,,,Can't see how anyone could think that Harris won this debate. She is not smart and all informed viewers could easily see that she was lying.Pence didn't even bring up the fact that harris called out Biden for being a raaaacist in the dumbocrat debate. Last night she tried to place the race card but it didn't go over at all.....She couldn't defend her radical record or biden's record.....


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Pogo, you don't have to reply to that absurdity.


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Originally Posted by BaseBawl
The fly is making him a laughingstock.




Biden can't even draw flies....


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Biden up 1.9% in composite polling results since 7 days ago. I can't wait to not watch another debate.


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She was petulant and unpresidential. The Vice President was on his game. Pence won.


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Why did her numbers go up, and his down?


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Best poll that I could find
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Of course it will be dismissed by the usual subjects as it is from 538. But read their process.
Of note to me is not that Harris won, but the jump in her figures.
There was zero change in who the polled would vote for. Not surprising. Trump fell after his debate, but now voters are pretty set, whomever they support.
To me the interesting vote was the "popularity contest. Harris went up among her voters. A reaction that I think is due to her exhibiting competence. People didn't know her. She went down among her non-supporters as she did nothing - perhaps less that nothing - to change their minds.
The other was "Marks for performance." But that doesn't mean a lot. With her & Biden winning, more of her supporters were probably questioned, so of course she got better marks.


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If she serves the last 3 of Biden's 8 years, does she still get 8 of her own?


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From Quora:
"The answer to your question depends on how long the term of office was that the VP finishes out.
The Twenty-second Amendment says that no person can be elected President more than twice, and no person who has served more than two years of a presidential term to which someone else was elected
(i.e., the president whom the vice-president succeeds) can be elected more than once."

I remember when Lyndon declined to run for a second full term after succeeding JFK. He had served less than 24 months of Kennedy's term so he was eligible.
I was living in Cambridge MA. Within minutes of his announcement people (including me) poured into the streets, marching up and down Massachusetts Ave., chanting "The War Is Over."
Little did we know.
Only absolutely genuine spontaneous demonstration that I've ever seen.


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So if he makes 7 years, she can serve 9. Works.


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https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/08/kamala-harris-mike-pence-won-debate-drudge-poll/

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Over 70% of respondents to an unscientific, online Drudge Report poll indicated that they believed Vice President Mike Pence won Wednesday’s debate against vice presidential nominee Sen. Kamala Harris.

Seventy-two percent (around 175,519 people) voted that Pence was the victor in the first and only vice presidential debate, while 28% (around 69,000 people) said the same about Harris, according to the online poll data.


https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-m...ow-we-know-pence-won-the-debate-n1021250

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On Wednesday evening, Vice President Mike Pence and Senator Kamala Harris faced off in their first and only vice presidential debate of the campaign, and once again, the liberal media told us who won the debate without actually admitting it. For most of us watching, the answer was obvious. Mike Pence dominated in that debate. He was calm and cool. Rock-solid. Kamala Harris’s body language and voice reflected her nervousness—a stark contrast to her previous debate performances during the Democratic primary when she was still in the race. But neither her body language, her failure to answer questions, nor her constant reliance on fake stories as lines of attack were the key tell that she lost.

The liberal media conceded Pence’s victory by describing Pence’s debate performance. And their go-to explanation was to attack the vice president by accusing him of “mansplaining.”


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/08/gop-pollster-mike-pence-beat-harris-in-vice-presidential-debate.html

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All but two of the 15 participants in GOP pollster Frank Luntz’s vice presidential debate focus group felt Vice President Mike Pence performed better than Sen. Kamala Harris.


https://bostonherald.secondstreetapp.com/VP-debate/

Pence 63
Harris 33


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Quoting your sources is like quoting Qanon on politics.
Of course you can find righty sources that give it to Pence. I quoted source that actually described their methodology.
And why some of the reactions sounded interesting.
But the bottom line was that there was zero change in who viewers were going to vote for.
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IMHO.....Trump lost his debate because he was angry and pence easily beat the heck out of Harris.


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Harris looked bad, both in the debate and in the Barrett hearings.


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