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Re: NL East: Covid cases, opt outs, injury report [Re: SilverFox1] #609722
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Re: NL East: Covid cases, opt outs, injury report [Re: SilverFox1] #609725
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Originally Posted by SilverFox1
Phils traded alot to get Realmuto a couple years ago. They need to validate that move. So let them overpay on JTR and be saddled with another crazy ass contract. Nats need Ozuna. Besides, who in-house would they use to replace Eaton next season, Stephenson? Harrison? No thanks.

Yankees lost $400 million in 2020. Mets lost $200 million, and Phils lost $160 million. How much did The Lerners lose? Sure, those figures are from MLB, and the numbers are probably cooked. Still, with the pandemic and the economic uncertainty, I dont see Rizzo winning a sales pitch to the Lerners to sign a catcher to a deal into his late 30's (if that is what the market demands) when catchers dont historically age well. If The Lerners can take advantage of a soft market and scoop up Ozuna or JTR to good deals, great. But if not we then might end up with a Tier 2 guy like Brantley. No problem with that. And then let Gomes finish out his final year.


Did those teams lose that much in franchise value, money in the bank, or potential earnings? Probably just earnings, which they obviously aren't happy about but not the same impact as if they had to reach into their pockets. I'm with you on not trusting the MLB figures since they are still negotiating with the players. With salaries cut by more than half and more playoff money the teams were a lot less exposed to taking those sort of losses.

I wonder what the relationship is between Realmuto and Harper. In DC Bryce's teammates were mostly happy to see him gone, Harper keeps saying that he wants the Phillies to re-sign Realmuto but does JT care about playing with Bryce?

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I dont think either of us will be surprised to see big dollar guys like Ozuna, Bauer, and Realmuto select 1 year deals if the market demand this Fall. Which might favor the Nats.

The info came from an article on NJ.com. It cited a loss of earnings in those individual team cases. If you estimate the Nats avg'd 30k fans x 81 that's 2.4 million fans. Multiplied by how much the average fan spends at a game with ticket + everything else....


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Re: NL East: Covid cases, opt outs, injury report [Re: SilverFox1] #609748
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The angst in Philly continues. Phils pitching coach retires after 1 season. Was credited for greatly improving team's ERA. Phillies in 2021 will be on their 5th pitching coach in 5 seasons.


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Re: NL East: Covid cases, opt outs, injury report [Re: PowerBoater69] #609781
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Originally Posted by SilverFox1
Phils traded alot to get Realmuto a couple years ago. They need to validate that move. So let them overpay on JTR and be saddled with another crazy ass contract. Nats need Ozuna. Besides, who in-house would they use to replace Eaton next season, Stephenson? Harrison? No thanks.


Stevenson looked pretty good in what was admittedly an abbreviated run this season. Yadiel Hernandez looked decent also.

With Suzuki a free agent, the outfield corps without any changes (Ozuna, Springer, or re-signing Eaton) looks stronger at this point than the catching without any changes. They have Soto, Robles, Stevenson, and Hernandez in the outfield. They are likely to sign at least one of Harrison, Cabrera, and Holt, and likely Howie, if he wants to play another year. The catching right now consists of Gomes, Raudy Read, and Tres Barrera. I think the catching is more in need of an upgrade.


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Re: NL East: Covid cases, opt outs, injury report [Re: SilverFox1] #610831
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Robinson Cano, who was busted couple years ago for steroids, gets busted again. Gets suspended for the entire 2021 season. Welcome to the Mets Steve Cohen, now go replace that powerful .316 BA in that lineup. Doesn't matter if there's a new owner, that club is still hexed with bad luck.


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Re: NL East: Covid cases, opt outs, injury report [Re: SilverFox1] #612035
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Last week was sweet: 'Skins won. Wiz get Westbrook. And then ESPN takes a hatchet to the Phillies for effing up their rebuild:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...s-botched-their-rebuild-tells-us-tanking

"The Phillies, still without a winning season since 2011, have reached the point where the proverbial final pieces -- the expensive veteran stars -- have not only been added but are leaving: catcher J.T. Realmuto is a free agent; starter Jake Arrieta's three-year contract is spent; closer David Robertson's two-year deal -- remember that? -- just expired; and infielder Jean Segura is reportedly coming up in trade talks. The Phillies might still get good, but they're no longer:

* young, as their hitters and pitchers were both older than league average in 2020;

* cheap, as their payroll is back in the league's top 10, where it was before they stripped down;

* rich in prospects, as their farm system ranked in the bottom 10 last year;

* clearly contenders, as (way premature) ZiPS projections for next year see the Phillies as currently constituted winning around 76 games."


And now rumors are rampant that they're shopping Zack Wheeler because the club is bleeding money. And to further the comedy, a Phillies exec insists they wouldnt trade Wheeler for Babe Ruth. Really now. Wow. Feel the love, Bryce.



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Re: NL East: Covid cases, opt outs, injury report [Re: SilverFox1] #612146
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That would be really nice to pick up Wheeler in a Philly salary dump. Although I saw a Fangraphs article yesterday saying that the Nats have the fourth highest payroll in MLB, so with everyone cutting costs I'd be surprised if the Nats make any splashy signings. MASN is having to return money to the cable companies due to the cancelled games last season, meaning tens of millions of losses for both the Os and Nats. This season will be a true test for Rizzo, he's built his reputation partially based on having the high Lerner payrolls working for him, he'll need to get creative to avoid another disaster season.

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Originally Posted by PowerBoater69
That would be really nice to pick up Wheeler in a Philly salary dump. Although I saw a Fangraphs article yesterday saying that the Nats have the fourth highest payroll in MLB, so with everyone cutting costs I'd be surprised if the Nats make any splashy signings. MASN is having to return money to the cable companies due to the cancelled games last season, meaning tens of millions of losses for both the Os and Nats. This season will be a true test for Rizzo, he's built his reputation partially based on having the high Lerner payrolls working for him, he'll need to get creative to avoid another disaster season.


Apparently they came close to signing Carlos Santana. No cigar. Wonder if they wouldve won the bidding in a normal offseason. 18 full time Nats employees just laid off. Meanwhile, MLB drops 40 minor league cities.


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Re: NL East: Covid cases, opt outs, injury report [Re: SilverFox1] #612328
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Sux for the minor league cities that got dropped but I always thought that the MLB minor league system was overly bloated anyway. I'm not sure why we need even four minor league clubs when so many of the players have no real shot of playing in the majors. With hundreds of players now without a contract and a few dozen cities looking to host a team I'd expect a healthy independent league to emerge.

As for the Nats, I'm really pessimistic about them signing anyone of note this year. With no fans and a third of their TV revenue cut they took a big financial hit and they already have one of the highest payrolls in the league. Only thing to hope for is that the season ticket renewal numbers remained strong and that the Lerners want to win another World Series as much as they want to profit off of the team. We'll see if Rizzo can earn his big contract this year.

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