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Ryan Z, Joe Ross: Out for 2020 #606289
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MLBTradeRumors.com:

Ryan Zimmernan: "I’m Still Deciding Whether To Play”

As most players prepare to report to summer training camp, longtime Nationals first baseman Ryan Zimmerman writes in a guest piece for the Associated Press that he’s “still deciding whether to play” in 2020. Like many players throughout the league, while he’s not personally a high-risk patient in the event of a positive COVID-19 test, he has loved ones who are of greater concern. Writes Zimmerman:

When it comes down to it, it’s a decision not just for me, but for my family as well. I have a 3-week-old baby. My mother has multiple sclerosis and is super high-risk; if I end up playing, I can pretty much throw out the idea of seeing her until weeks after the season is over.

Under the health and safety protocols laid out by Major League Baseball and agreed to by the Players Association, Zimmerman wouldn’t receive service time or be paid, should he choose to opt out. Only players who are high-risk cases themselves, as determined by team medical personnel, are eligible for that benefit.

Zimmerman will be far from the only player making a decision of this nature in the coming days. High-risk individuals exist throughout the league, be it due to recent battles with cancer, preexisting respiratory conditions or any number of other risk-increasing conditions. The number of players with such risks is surely higher than most are aware of, and the number of players with concerns more in line with Zimmerman is even greater yet. There will very likely be some players who opt not to play in 2020, and Zimmerman provides a candid and thoughtful look at the factors he’s weighing in a piece that’s well worth a full read.

This past offseason, Zimmerman inked a one-year, $2MM contract to return to the Nationals for what would his 16th season with the only franchise he’s ever known. Foot injuries limited him to just 52 games in 2019 and likely impacted his performance at the plate, but he batted a combined .289/.350/.542 in 899 plate appearances from 2017-18.

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NBA regular season has not even started, their players havent even scrimmaged yet, and 16 of its 302 players - 5% of its workforce - tested positive for Covid earlier this week.

This season is gonna be a mess, and it'll get really interesting if a high profile player in a major market like Betts, Judge, or Harper catches Covid.


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Zimmerman said all along that he was concerned about playing and being separated from his family, he never did one of the when and where tweets, so I respect his decision to sit the season out. With his injury history taking a year off might help him heal fully for 2021. He could also sit out the July training sessions and all of the August games and join the team for the playoff run in September. Ten weeks of isolation from his family would be a lot less time than 18-20 weeks.

The NBA players are testing positive because they are going out around people, not because of playing basketball. If you are at risk anyway might as well play the games.

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He would need to be active by September 15 to be playoff eligible.


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Don't see him sitting out the season and then try to fly in like Superman for the playoffs. Cant successfully hit the On switch like that after not facing ML pitching for so long a time. And he doesn't strike me as a guy who's gonna sit back and watch his teammates grunt it out for the regular season while he's home watching Netflix. No player has done more for the Nats since '05 so I tip my cap to whatever he decides to do.


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Doubtful this would happen but another option for Zimmerman would be to just play the 32 games at Nats Park and Camden Yards, he would do the hitting cage at home and even have his uniforms at home so all he'd have to do is drive to the ballpark and play. This would limit exposure risk to sitting on the bench while the Nats are at bat and he could wear an N95 for that.

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Zimmerman and Joe Ross have both opted out for the season. Zim was not unexpected and the Nats have guys who can play 1B/DH but Ross could be the bigger loss. Now the Nats need a fifth starter.

Britt Ghiroli got the scoop on both players. She has been getting more inside info lately than any of the other writers who have been covering the team a lot longer.

Edit: He might not be done yet, MLB and the MLBPA are working on a rule change that will allow players who opted out to change their minds and opt back in. Currently this is allowed only if the player had a pre-existing condition but in Zim's case he does not.

Edit 2: Zim isn't giving up much, he'll be a FA again next winter and $2M is a small amount for someone with $140M is career earnings. Ross is giving up $1.5 million, he's earned $5.5M in his career, but the bigger loss for him is a year of FA eligibility, he'll have two arbitration years left when he comes back in 2021. That can't have been an easy decision.

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Suzuki Cabrera and Doolittle are the next dominos that could fall.

I'm not sold on Eric Thames so losing Zimm is tough, even with injury history. Ross, too. At this rate gonna hold off on doing a pre-season prediction thread until day before season starts.


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Ian Desmond is now the fourth player to opt out, instead he'll be building up the little league program for underprivileged youth in his home town. One of the nicest guys in the league.

He got a lot of criticism for passing on the Nats $107M offer for seven years, 15.2M per year ending in 2020. But since then he has signed $95.5M in contracts through 2021 so $11.5 plus a year lost. However, the Nats offer contained an unknown amount of deferred money which would have lessened the value of the offer, so he might have come out even. The Nats ended up fortunate that he left, as his numbers have dropped over the past few years. Had he been with the team still in 2019 he'd have been the fourth outfielder and his salary would have blocked the rest of the bench depth.

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Saw Desmond at the '05 RFK exhibition game against the Mets. Scrawny beanpole little dude who came in late innings. Remember thinking to myself what the hell is all the commotion about with this kid. But gotta hand it to Desmond he bulked up and hit his potential....but like the case with Jordan Z, Rizzo looks good now for letting Ian walk.

Edit -- Desmond says inner cities are not encouraging "minorities" to play baseball. ESPN excerpt : Desmond said his mind started racing during a recent visit to the Sarasota baseball fields that he played on as a kid. He wrote about how they looked run-down and neglected and how important youth baseball was for him growing up.

Sorry Ian, towns in Puerto Rico and Central America turn out tons of kids who want to play MLB. And you go to those towns and they make Sarasota Florida look like Beverly Hills in alot of cases. I'm all for little league development in urban areas, but there's other issues at play, too. Like Demand vs. Supply.


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