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Re: Possible Salary Reduction for Players [Re: SilverFox1] #605333
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Unsurprisingly, the list of clubs talking furloughs, pay cuts, and layoffs just gets longer every day.

The players want to hold the owners to a vague discussion back in March that would ensure the players get full salary. Which was before anyone knew that zero fans would be in attendance. They wanna bend over the the owners and F 'em hard on this issue.
So sick of this BS. The clubs are willing to protect the players from Covid on a level that no other American worker could receive. Play the season, and if you're not shut the hell up and go play golf.


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Re: Possible Salary Reduction for Players [Re: SilverFox1] #605334
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I found this from a 2005 study of the impact of the MLB strikes:

"Using the baseball strikes of 1981, 1994, and 1995 as test cases, we find the net economic impact for a MLB team on a host city of $16.2 million under one model and $132.3 million under a second model."

Those numbers are 15 years old so they could only have gone up. But guys like Snell, Harper, Cole, and Doolittle don't give a crap about all of the downstream economic impact, they just want all of their millions. Bring on the replacements and let's play ball.

Re: Possible Salary Reduction for Players [Re: SilverFox1] #605335
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Didn't Sotomayor tell MLB it couldn't use replacements?


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Re: Possible Salary Reduction for Players [Re: TBP] #605337
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Originally Posted by TBP
Didn't Sotomayor tell MLB it couldn't use replacements?


By replacements I mean bring up minor leaguers to replace anyone who decides to sit out the season. Would not be an issue unless the players go on strike.

The news today is that Boras is heavily involved in the union push back against the owners. I just read a stat that 55% of the players have careers of five years or fewer, so most never pass the six years of service necessary to make it to free agency. Boras is pushing for the union to make decisions to benefit less than a third of the players. The younger guys need to use their votes to accept this offer.

Re: Possible Salary Reduction for Players [Re: SilverFox1] #605338
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MLBPA is making a new case for full salary, to play more than 81 games, and that the owners are intentionally ignoring the gobs of national and local advertising and promotion revenue awaiting. And that businesses are lining up to purchase it all. Which is the kind of BS a 12 year old could sniff out. Most of baseball's big national advertising categories (automotive, airlines, mobile phones) have been hit as hard as other industries by the pandemic. Getting really close to not caring about this.



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Re: Possible Salary Reduction for Players [Re: SilverFox1] #605339
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Normally I'd side with the players over the owners but this dispute is really the super rich players (Boras guys) vs the rank and file guys who are looking at a 2-6 season MLB career and can't afford to miss an entire year. The Boras guys like Max Scherzer have been given control of the union and they are the ones leaking the press their displeasure with the MLB offer (not giving a damn about the thousands of other jobs at stake in the middle of a national crisis). Since half the players never make it to their sixth season those guys would be idiots to not jump at the MLB offer. The young guys have the votes, they just need the balls to take over the union.

Re: Possible Salary Reduction for Players [Re: SilverFox1] #605341
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Boras is telling his players that the pandemic has ZERO to do with the owners problems. According to Boras, the owners' current financial problems are self-inflicted: a result of (get this) poor management debt financing.

Credit to Trevor Bauer for making this statement :

Hearing a LOT of rumors about a certain player agent meddling in MLBPA affairs. If true — and at this point, these are only rumors — I have one thing to say... Scott Boras, rep your clients however you want to, but keep your damn personal agenda out of union business.
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Re: Possible Salary Reduction for Players [Re: PowerBoater69] #605342
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Originally Posted by PowerBoater69
Normally I'd side with the players over the owners but this dispute is really the super rich players (Boras guys) vs the rank and file guys who are looking at a 2-6 season MLB career and can't afford to miss an entire year.


That seemed to be what Trevor Bauer was implying with his tweet.


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I agree with Bauer.


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Re: Possible Salary Reduction for Players [Re: TBP] #605349
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Originally Posted by TBP
I agree with Bauer.


Definitely. More news of layoffs today, including minor leaguers. Meanwhile Max Scherzer sits in his palace and cries about the greedy owners.

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