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Re: A History of Rizzo's Trades (MLBTradeRumors.com) [Re: SilverFox1] #604793
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Acquired RHP Luis Garcia and a PTBNL (LHP Victor Garante) from the Dodgers for INF Ronnie Belliard --- Minor win for LA. Belliard had a great 5 HR September for the Dodgers, then zero extra base hits in 30 playoff at bats. Garante was terrible in four games and never made it back to the majors. Garcia was released by the Nats.

Re: A History of Rizzo's Trades (MLBTradeRumors.com) [Re: SilverFox1] #604794
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Acquired C Jamie Burke from the Mariners for cash --- He had a .267 OPS in seven games. Not worth a bucket of balls.

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So lots of moves by Rizzo in his first season but only two trades of note, one was his first signature big win and one tie.

Re: A History of Rizzo's Trades (MLBTradeRumors.com) [Re: SilverFox1] #604833
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2017 Season -- Acquired LHP Sean Doolittle and RHP Ryan Madson from the Athletics for RHP Blake Treinen, LHP Jesus Luzardo and 2B Sheldon Neuse.

Update on this trade today from MLBTradeRumors.com. Excerpt:

Luzardo’s a former Tommy John surgery patient who missed most of last season with rotator cuff and lat troubles, but the results were scintillating when he was able to pitch. He made his major league debut late in the year out of the A’s bullpen and proceeded to fire 12 innings of two-run ball with 16 strikeouts, three walks and just five hits given up. The A’s will obviously hope for that dominance to carry over when he joins their rotation.

Neuse, 25, is not an elite farmhand, but there’s still hope for him to amount to something in the bigs. He had difficulty over his first 61 MLB plate appearances last year, though he was terrific in Triple-A ball, where he batted .317/.389/.550 (126 wRC+) with 27 home runs in 560 PA. MLB.com is bullish on Neuse, rating him sixth in the A’s system and writing that he “could be a big league regular in another organization, but for now looks like a very solid super-utility type whose bat will force its way into the lineup more often than not.”

Assessing this trade now, it looks like a win-win. The Nationals would love to have Luzardo vying for a spot in their already stacked rotation, and they probably wouldn’t mind having Neuse around to push for playing time. But you can’t take away the championship Doolittle helped them win. On the other side, the A’s received an unforgettable season from Treinen and could have one or two long-term contributors in Luzardo and Neuse.


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Re: A History of Rizzo's Trades (MLBTradeRumors.com) [Re: PowerBoater69] #604840
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Originally Posted by PowerBoater69
Acquired C Jamie Burke from the Mariners for cash --- He had a .267 OPS in seven games. Not worth a bucket of balls.


It was just cash, though. For a bit of cash, it was worth what little they got.


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Re: A History of Rizzo's Trades (MLBTradeRumors.com) [Re: SilverFox1] #604898
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The Nats show up four times in a list of pairs of teams that have gone the longest without a trade. The second longest trade drought overall is DC and Baltimore, the last swap was when the team was in Montreal in 2001. Our last trade with Houston was back in the Bowden days, in 2007, you would think that two teams that see each other every spring would make a deal (although I hear that the ownership groups hate each other since they've become partners in Palm Beach). The last DBacks trade was in 2011, surprising since Rizzo is known for bringing in guys he drafted there, they probably don't want to get robbed. The last trade with the Rangers was 2014.

In each of these four cases it was pretty much a nothing for nothing result.


https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-teams-longest-trade-droughts

Re: A History of Rizzo's Trades (MLBTradeRumors.com) [Re: SilverFox1] #604904
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That's an interesting list.


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Re: A History of Rizzo's Trades (MLBTradeRumors.com) [Re: SilverFox1] #604920
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Re: A History of Rizzo's Trades (MLBTradeRumors.com) [Re: SilverFox1] #604976
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From @MLBPipeline:

The #Nats are the favorites to sign 16-year-old Dominican shortstop Armando Cruz, perhaps the best defender in the international class.

Cruz is No. 4 on the 2020 Top 30 International Prospects list: https://t.co/vdOj3L1PM9 https://t.co/F6t4OAalIS

Re: A History of Rizzo's Trades (MLBTradeRumors.com) [Re: SilverFox1] #605076
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Gotta give Rizzo and The Lerners credit re: not re-signing Jordan Zimmermann (whether they wanted to or not).

Most fans were jumping off cliffs at the thought of JZ leaving DC back then, but sometimes the best deals are the ones that do not happen -- dude has tumbled badly while in Detroit. If the Nats had signed him to a fat contract, than they later on cannot sign Corbin, and they do not win (or even get to) the World Series. Corbin performed in the WS in a way JZ could not have matched. Excerpt from MLBTradeRumors.com :

"(Jordan) Zimmermann has always put in the effort but hasn’t had the results since moving to Detroit. He gave the Nationals over a thousand frames of 3.32 ERA ball, setting the stage for a $110MM deal with the Tigers. But Zimmermann has struggled with injuries and has limped to a brutal 5.61 ERA in his 508 2/3 innings over the past four seasons.

Zimmermann is owed $25MM for the 2020 campaign, though he’s likely to earn only a portion of that due to the shortened season. He no longer has full no-trade rights — he can block deals to all but ten teams — so it’s possible he could be moved during the season if he’s able to bounce back."


Spending all that dough and getting an average ERA of 5.61 over 4 years. Tigers prob think they coulda saved over a $100 million by just calling up schmucks from their AA team over the past 4 seasons, who woulda pitched better than that.


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Re: A History of Rizzo's Trades (MLBTradeRumors.com) [Re: SilverFox1] #605080
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Rizzo was dead on picking Strasburg over Zimmermann. Probably my worst take in the 15 years since the Nats came to DC was declaring that Zimmermann was the better choice to sign long term. From 2012-2015 JZ had a 16.2 WAR to SS's 11.3, so Jordan had been the better pitcher over the prior four years. Stras had a slightly better ERA but Zimnn had a shitload more innings pitched. Zimmermann looked to be what Scherzer eventually proved to be, a workhorse who would never tire or be affected by age. Good thing I wasn't GM at that time.

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