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Re: Some rough figures on COVID [Re: mikezpen] #605381
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https://greensmoothiegirl.com/your-...podcast-4-25-20&utm_term=youtube-traffic

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Judy Mikovits, PhD, is a biochemist and molecular biologist who worked in top government labs on the Ebola, HIV, and coronaviruses like SARS. Dr. Mikovits exposes fraud at the highest level in the CDC and other agencies Americans believe keep us safe from infectious disease in her new book, “Plague of Corruption”.


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Re: Some rough figures on COVID [Re: mikezpen] #605382
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https://greensmoothiegirl.com/your-...iew-calls-virus-decision-makers-to-task/

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Former U.S. Army and Emergency-trained doctor Rashid Buttar joins us from North Carolina to explain why the virus is not the threat we feared, and in fact violates every physiological and scientific principle. So why are we still on lock downs, with corruption and agenda bringing world governments and people to their knees? There’s a message of hope and united intention at the end.


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Re: Some rough figures on COVID [Re: mikezpen] #605383
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Re: Some rough figures on COVID [Re: mikezpen] #605388
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https://www.theblaze.com/news/coronavirus-recovery-reopen-america-economy

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A nationwide survey found that a majority of Democrats don't want to reopen the economy for another six weeks or even longer.


A nationwide survey found that a majority of Democrats don't want to reopen the economy for another six weeks or even longer.

The Network Science Institute of Northeastern University, the Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics, and Public Policy of Harvard University, and the School of Communication & Information at Rutgers University polled 22,912 individuals across all 50 states, plus the District of Columbia, from April 17-26.

The focus of the poll was to find out the opinions of Americans on how the COVID-19 pandemic is being handled as well as when the coronavirus recovery should happen.

The survey discovered that 57% of Democrats don't want to reopen the U.S. economy for six weeks or longer. Specifically, 22% want to reopen the economy in six to eight weeks, and 35% of Democrats don't want to reopen the economy until after eight weeks, which would keep "nonessential" businesses shuttered well into the summer.

Conversely, 16% of Republicans are in favor of keeping the economy closed for at least eight weeks, and 13% of Republicans want to reopen the economy in six to eight weeks. The median Republican wants to reopen the economy in two to four weeks, and the median Democrat wants to wait six to eight weeks.

The survey found that 93% of respondents did not want to reopen the economy immediately, and more than 80% of Americans supported closing nonessential businesses.

People from Wisconsin (25%), Michigan (24%), and Wyoming (22%) had the highest rates of dissatisfaction with their state governments being overbearing during the coronavirus pandemic and said the states were "overreacting to the outbreak."

The poll found that hospitals and doctors were the most trusted entity regarding the COVID-19 outbreak, with 96% trusting them "a lot" or "some." Participants in the study said scientists and researchers were the second-most reliable source for coronavirus information, with 93% trusting them "a lot" or "some," followed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention at 88%.

The survey found that 73% of Republicans said that the federal government was "reacting about right" in its response to the COVID-19 outbreak vs. 63% of Democrats who said the federal government was "not taking the outbreak seriously enough."


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Re: Some rough figures on COVID [Re: mikezpen] #605390
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https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/read...as-many-years-of-life-as-the-coronavirus

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Will the New York Times begin publishing the names of those who died from the man-made lockdowns alongside those who died from the God-made plague of the coronavirus? Will it publish a state-by-state and country-by-country dashboard and demographic breakdown of those who lose their lives thanks to these unprecedented political decisions?

Four professors with backgrounds ranging from medicine to economics attempted to quantify the number of lives lost from the devastation of the lockdown itself – something our government failed to simulate when it embarked on this novel policy. Using health and labor data as well as various actuarial tables, they projected 65,000 lives lost per month of lockdown in the U.S. – greater than the loss from the virus. That number was calculated by dividing the estimated $1.1 trillion lost from economic productivity per month of lockdown by $17 million because the best estimates predict one life lost from suicide, alcohol or drug abuse, or stress-induced illnesses per $17 million lost.

"These financial losses have been falsely portrayed as purely economic," wrote the four professors in The Hill on Monday. "To the contrary … we calculate that these policies will cause devastating non-economic consequences that will total millions of accumulated years of life lost in the United States, far beyond what the virus itself has caused."

The four authors were Scott Atlas of Stanford University's Hoover Institution, John Birge of the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, Ralph Keeney of Duke University, and Alexander Lipton of the Jerusalem Business School of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

The point the authors make, that lockdowns are destroying so many more cumulative years of life, is very poignant to the situation we find ourselves in. For every 1,000 lives lost to the virus, the corresponding 1,000 lives lost to the lockdown will destroy exponentially more "life years," because the median age of those who die from the virus is 80, while the median age for deaths caused by the lockdown – those who die due to suicide, substance abuse, despair, and poverty – is much lower.

This point was accentuated by one commentator who compared the cumulative years of life lost to the virus from Feb. 1 through May 13 to the years of life lost to fatalities from the flu and pneumonia over the same time.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYKsgvhXkAE6RcD?format=jpg&name=small

As you can see, there were actually more life years lost due to flu and pneumonia, even though this was a mild flu season in most places and the time frame of reference here doesn't include December and January, which include a large share of the annual flu deaths.

We have already seen that doctors in Northern California are reporting more than a year's worth of suicides in just four weeks. Knox County, Tennessee, experienced nine suicides in just one 48-hour period in March. On the other hand, there have only been five COVID-19 deaths in Knox County over nine weeks! One can only imagine the number of suicides that will pile up if these draconian measures are continued indefinitely until there is a vaccine, as so many liberal politicians are advocating.

Also, the death toll of the economic consequences of the shutdown is just one piece of the pie. As the authors note, stroke patient evaluations are down 40%, nearly half of cancer patients have missed treatments, two-thirds to three-fourths of routine cancer screenings have been delayed, nearly 85% fewer living-donor transplants have occurred, and more than half of childhood vaccinations are not being performed. They estimate that the total years of lost life per month of shutdown from these missed treatments and diagnosis are 500,000! In total, they estimate that the lockdown, over its entire duration, has caused the loss of 1.5 million life years, as compared to 800,000 life years from the virus itself.


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Re: Some rough figures on COVID [Re: mikezpen] #605391
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Some sincerely fear opening.

But a lot realize that the longer it stays closed, the less we'll know about how it w/react when opened.And the more steam their vote by mail drive will get.If we have vote by mail, the Dems w/sweep everything because they'll cheat-and they know this.But if people have been going out for months, calls to shut down the polls and vote by mail won't carry much weight.

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Re: Some rough figures on COVID [Re: mikezpen] #605395
29/05/2020 14:23
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mikezpen,

The old saying about Chicago politics "Vote early, vote often." might well have been true. It's even possible that a few stuffed ballot boxes then might have won Illinois for Kennedy. And so went the nation.

However, with all the cynicism that I have about politics, the bland assumption that Democrats (as separate from Republicans) are now and will be successfully dishonest is a righty slur with little but inconsequential
anecdotal examples of no political consequence. A vote perhaps stolen here or there matters little vs. the massive rigging of the voter rolls, Gerrymandering and ID manipulation practiced by Republicans.
I'll go with the Republican Ohio Secretary of State who spoke up in answer to Trump's lies about mail balloting, saying that the system here was safe and honest. Most Dems didn't want to give publicity to his calumny by responding.
A political decision.
Sorry that you are such a true believer.


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Re: Some rough figures on COVID [Re: mikezpen] #605397
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Pogo, unfortunately, they have a record of being dishonest.


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Hopefully the virus won't be spreading in these "gatherings" over the killing of George Floyd.Too many of these people are not not wearing masks or physical distancing. Would make things much worse if we have outbreaks and more deaths because of this...


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Re: Some rough figures on COVID [Re: mikezpen] #605404
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Trump encouraged police to attack blacks and thus made people riot as a result and is to blame for not enough masks being available and so they will get sick from being together too closely. It's all TRump's fault.

Got it.


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