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The Coronavirus Stiumulus Bill #604482
23/03/2020 17:48
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Not having read it, but read OF it, I believe it's a Christmas tree w/each side trying to add as many of its ornaments as possible.This s/b a clean bill that addresses only the current crisis.Some of the most notable ornaments are apparently:
*Supposedly it addresses abortions up or down-it SHOULDN'T address abortion at all.
*Loans for big corporations w/limited restrictions-frankly I wouldn't bail any of them out, with or without restrictions. Delta Airlines won't go broke.
*Money for wind and solar power sources-NO
*Giving unions more bargaining power-NO
* tougher emissions stds. for airline-NO
*same day voter registration HELL NO
*all-mail voting HELL NO
These things belong in their own bill-not forced down the nation's throat during an emergency.

The Democrats are trying to cram a lot of idiot-leftist provisions in the bill; the Republicans want to pay off corporations- a plague on both their houses.

The thing should help small and medium business to keep workers getting their paychecks and the owners from going belly-up. Help firms retrofit to manufacture masks, ventilators and other medical equipment.I also think it s/help people during the course of this crisis-but not raise benefits permanently or create months of personal/sick leave rights as the Dems. want to do. That's for another day.

Mikezpen's bill wouldn't get 5 votes though.



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Re: The Coronavirus Stiumulus Bill [Re: mikezpen] #604484
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Probably get you shot. Congress must congeal their fecal material. No more BS. Get some things done.


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Re: The Coronavirus Stiumulus Bill [Re: mikezpen] #604492
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Perfect. Let 'er rip. Every bill has this junk attached in its infancy. Seriously, sit back for the final. Mitch isn't handing his handlers a half trillion dollar pocket stuffing either. Wait for it.


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Re: The Coronavirus Stiumulus Bill [Re: mikezpen] #604494
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My understanding of the bill is that won't help Main Street enough. By the time the $1200 hits her account, Melissa the yoga teacher will be a month behind on her bills. Then the downhill slide resumes. The millions of Melissas will need more like a monthly booster until the economy restarts. More like Juky 4th than Easter, if we're lucky. Even if President Limu Emu tries to lift the shut-in, none of the governors of the civilized states will open them back up until it's rational to do so.


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Re: The Coronavirus Stiumulus Bill [Re: mikezpen] #604496
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Trump's promise of opening up for Easter is silly. His optimism carries too far sometimes. But a leader isn't supposed to whine about the End Times, either. Gallup says that 60% of Americans like what he's been doing re:C-virus.If it keeps up, this will put him in.


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If he himself invented a cure tonight, I still wouldn't vote for him.

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He's not going to get a medal for his handling of this mess.


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Re: The Coronavirus Stiumulus Bill [Re: carolina] #604499
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Originally Posted by carolina
If he himself invented a cure tonight, I still wouldn't vote for him.


I feel the exact same way about the Democrats/leftists and their anti-American, perverted, racist agenda. So I can't criticize you.

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Re: The Coronavirus Stiumulus Bill [Re: mikezpen] #604500
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I know.

Re: The Coronavirus Stiumulus Bill [Re: mikezpen] #604502
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It's crazy for fake news outlets to blame him for a slow rollout of tests. NONE of those now bashing him for that was yelling fire before this thing hit......The economy is at a point where if we don't get back to work soon, it's not going to come back for a while. Folks that are living paycheck to patcheck aren't gonna be able to spend much for a while after they get back to work.

Had to take one of our trucks to the repair shop today. There was a lot of vehicles in his lot so I thought that he was really backed up. He told me that the cars out front had already been fixed but that their owners would not come pick them up because they didn't have the money to pay for the repairs to get them back.....Not going to be a quick return ......


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My wife and I were talking earlier about using our stimulus money to help some people we know who need it.

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My wife and I will believe it when it hits our account. All our kids and kids-in-law are essential or remotable, so they should get a free ride on the alleged gravy train. The free ride on the school loans will benefit several of them. Looking forward to the next package! It's bound to please.


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Just found out my daughter's fiance, who is a first year internal medicine resident at Lehigh Valley's monster hospital, is rotating to ICU duty next week. They have cases. My son's fiance just went back to regular hospital nursing duties in Harrisburg, so she could go 3/12 days. She's working on her Nurse Practitioner degree, and 4 days off a week works better for her. Her floor is neurology and also includes the respiratory department patients. She got a 10K bonus for making the move, even though she actually works for the same company. Maybe it's war pay. Our county only has like 2 confirmed cases so far. Hoping she's not rolling in the fecal matter of these dying souls. Both fiances are in residence with their respective kid of mine. Wash your hands.

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Re: The Coronavirus Stiumulus Bill [Re: mikezpen] #604506
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Being the loner type by nature, "self-quarantine" is a lifestyle for me, not a temporary status.

I hope Republicans stand fast against any "riders" on the bill. Unfortunately, we're seeing them. Bailouts for corporations and union pension funds. Kennedy Center, and re-sodding the Mall, college loan forgiveness.Of course, there are many incorporated small businesses, and keeping them afloat is one thing. But not airlines or hotels or any of the rest of it. Both sides are to blame, and I fear both sides will scratch each others' backs on this to at least some extent.

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170m for real estate investors in the senate version.


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chump change in that bill-but also unnecessary


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The House pencil whipped it through already.

Time to start QE III. Have it ready when the Senate decides to reconvene in the midst of what may become the biggest plague this country has ever lived through. No pressure, "leaders". Hope your dicks fall off.


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I'm so glad the Kennedy Center got funded.


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Might be an auxiliary hospital site.


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I'm not happy with this bill, with the republicans for allowing the dumbocrat pork and with Trump for Bashing the one republican that wanted the votes on record. Also upset with Trump and the dumbocrats for wanting to do 3 or 4 more of these bills to bail out the states and everybody else that claims damage....Trump says Chinese dictator is good, apparently thinks Pelosi and company are good too for passing such a bill but the masse guy is bad for wanting to hold it up a few minutes to have everyone on record. the dumbocrats held this up for a week but they are just great.... Zach's future took a hit today, they'll be paying 95% taxes to pay this off one day....

If 150 million are gonna get a check, they should get all of the 2 trillion , that would be over 13 K per person..... there is no guidelines on how a lot of this money can be spent and I'm SURE that it'll make it's way into the pockets od dumbocrats or their liberal donors.....

This is sickening....


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Great news! None of that is true! Doesn't even pass the idiot test, to anybody who follows the news. Possibly the payback. Probably have to rescind the massive tax cuts to the uber wealthy. So sad. What was your alternative though? Great Depression times 100?


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I believe the part about Trump praising the dictator.

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Taking a dump on Michigan, one of his critical swing states. School yard bully move. Bye bye.


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Part of Trump's diplomatic strategy is praising these slimeballs we need to deal with.He does it all the time. He heaps praise on everybody he likes; you know that. You've heard it. But I don't know what he's given these people, unless you believe the "Russian collusion" scam.

On the other hand, how about Obama being caught telling the Russians he'd be more flexible on arms negotiations once he got re-elected? Or cancelling anti-missile defense in Eastern Europe as soon as Putin demanded it. Or negotiating a nuke reduction treaty w/Russia even though he knew they had already cheated on the intermediate missile treaty? You claim Trump's Putin's puppet, what about Obama? He was a weakling, unless he was bullying states.

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Trump and Kushner will join Cohen in prison. Russian money laundering, and campaign finance violations.

Meanwhile, virus watch. MSNBC lady completely muffed explaining the IRS based payouts this morning. I waited like an hour to see if they corrected her. She totally misunderstood the relationship between '18. '19 and refunds. So she decided it was the '18 return you filed in '19. Almost half right.


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Originally Posted by BaseBawl
Great news! None of that is true! Doesn't even pass the idiot test, to anybody who follows the news. Possibly the payback. Probably have to rescind the massive tax cuts to the uber wealthy. So sad. What was your alternative though? Great Depression times 100?



You're uninformed on what has happened.Just as the BSDNC lady was wrong on the payout, they're pretty much wrong on everything else about this.....Trump will never go to jail for the bogus claims that the left has made against him. He's going to beat whoever the dumbocrats come up with in November and it's not going to be Biden......

I realize why trump was praising dumb shal ping but these lowlifes are the ones responsible for the virus.


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They should have had a clean bill and a real up or down vote with a real quorum, as required by the Constitution.

Mike's bill would be so much better. Can we stop with all the subsidies?


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I see we have $75 million for PBS along w/the money for the damned Kennedy Center where those cretins in Hamilton insulted Pence.Maybe the fucking place burns down before they get a chance to waste the money.

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Figure this. There are about 210 million adults in this country. If each gets $!200, how much is that? Well shy of $2.2 TRILLION.


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