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I'm planning on going to my usual 20 games this season, I don't want to catch the bug from one of the out of town fans, and I don't want to have to wear one of those plain white masks. It would be best if the team were to sell curly W n95 medical masks. Ideally with some sort of opening for beer.

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They're saying about 80% of corona virus case symptoms so far are reported to be mild.

And the fatality rate of the virus so far is only 1%, which is barely higher than the regular flu.

Nats oughtta nix the Prez Race and just do a Media Race: 4 puppets from the national media with medical masks on, that run in a frikkin panic from out the bullpen.








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Fake news media members running a fake race, I like it.

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I'd love to see Anna Kooiman from Fox News. Not in a fake news race, obviously. But definitely in a hot tub.


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They need you interviewing the new Nats Pack. Only in DC are the cheerleaders mostly a bunch of dudes.

Might not matter, countries are banning large gatherings. This season everyone will be watching on TV and the ballparks will be piping in simulated crowd noise.

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With the Corona virus going around I'm concerned for Bryce Harper. He got sick more than any other National. It would tear me up inside if he got the bug.

Reports of Harper being sick (usually "flu"):

July 2012
April 2013
August 2013
March 2014
July 2014
September 2014
March 2015
August 2016
July 2017
September 2017
June 2018 
July 2018
August 2018

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13 times in 7 years?! I haven't been sick 13 times in the last 25 years, let alone 7 yrs.

Although "being sick" for Harper probably meant "I need to hit some balls at the golf course".


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Originally Posted by SilverFox1
13 times in 7 years?! I haven't been sick 13 times in the last 25 years, let alone 7 yrs.

Although "being sick" for Harper probably meant "I need to hit some balls at the golf course".



Being sick for Harper more likely meant that he loafed on the field or mouthed off in the clubhouse and sat a game. Otherwise he had an unusually fast recovery time for a guy who gets sick that often.

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Ainsley Earhardt. Wearing a medical mask.

In a hot little nurses uniform.

The imagination just runs away.



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Yeah, he did seem to get sick a LOT. Must have felt exploited and underpaid.


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The Corona virus scare seems to be impacting spring training attendance, They Nats are on pace to have a record low. For the last home game it looks like they didn't even publish the number.

The players are now handing out pre autographed cards instead of touching anything handed to them by fans.

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A bunch of the guys played golf with Trump today, now there is concern that they are exposed to the Corona virus.

I'd be more concerned about all those guys holding the beer cup snake at the DC Defenders game.

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Originally Posted by PowerBoater69
A bunch of the guys played golf with Trump today, now there is concern that they are exposed to the Corona virus.


Sounds like that was probably reported on MSDNC by Mister Rachel Maddow. Her/his/its' commitment and dedication to stupidity is commendable.


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Bedwetters are crying a river to Boswell, and he's peeing along with them. From today's online chat:

Q: A Bad Look
Boz, Suffice to say that, given my politics, the Nats' visit to the White House, and antics while there, were a bit of a buzzkill for me. I'm not naive - I know what the politics of baseball clubhouses mostly are - but still, it wasn't my favorite. That said: what a TERRIBLE look, for the President and the Nats both, that they're off golfing yesterday in the middle of a national crisis. I know the Nats are just ballplayers and spring training is long and boring... but people are DYING, while the government dithers. Indian Wells (tennis' "fifth major", just down the road, is CANCELLED. It seems pretty likely there'll be real disruptions to the Major League season. I'm not asking the Nats to adopt my politics, but goodness, *read the room* folks.

A: Thomas Boswell
You make a very good point about "read the room."

But there is another side. Sort of. I think --to a degree-- I understand the feelings of some of the players. I've been lucky enough to be invited with my wife to the WH by four Presidents (both parties) over the last 40 years, at least two of whom I thought were doing a very poor job. (With hindsight, I'd have to admit that they were both doing better than I thought they were --in other words, I wasn't so smart in real-time evaluation.) I accepted for every one of them, regardless of policies. In part, I was curious to meet them, have a conversation and observe them up close.

If you had a chance to have a meal with U.S. Grant and Robert E. Lee in 1864 wouldn't you accept both invitations because you'd want to get a good close look --and get a feel of-- both of them, even though you probably thought at least one of them was profoundly wrong?

I understand that history may place Trump in a different category because he is so extreme in so many ways. Perhaps it already has. But I don't demand that pro ballplayers make such distinctions. I'm in a "live and let live" mood today.

I will say this: When they are 50, some of them may have changed their political views --or FORMED firm political views for the first time in their lives-- and look back with a cringe that they were in that Sunday golf group photo. (And I bet some others will still be proud of it.)



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I went out yesterday, saw a movie, went to a restaurant, hit the grocery store...gosh, how selfish of me. People are DYING. What was I thinking.


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Boz was still bashing the Covington kids after the full video revealed that they were the ones who were approached and taunted. Screw him.

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Anyone like the dude in his chat who blows a gasket because their favorite athlete or celeb or whatever has a different political belief than they do, needs to either grow up or get a thicker skin.







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Originally Posted by PowerBoater69
Boz was still bashing the Covington kids after the full video revealed that they were the ones who were approached and taunted. Screw him.


Impervious to facts.


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MLB has banned reporters in clubhouses and getting within six feet of players during press availability. Maybe things will go back to the but the league would be happy to exert more control over the message and to give their in house reporting staff an edge over the media.

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Originally Posted by PowerBoater69
MLB has banned reporters in clubhouses and getting within six feet of players during press availability.


So Ainsley Earhardt cannot get within 6 feet of the players. I would be pissed if I was them.


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Just the opposite, now that the nosy media types are banned from the locker room the players are free to bring in the groupies.

Meanwhile Lerner is hiring consultants to determine how to avoid refunding ticket money for cancelled games.

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Rumor is that MLB plans top suspend games starting this afternoon.

Meanwhile Doolittle's wife is blaming the fans for coming to the games and putting the teams at risk.

"I’m probably not supposed to say this, but people I beg of you please do not come to games right now. I know they’re still inexplicably playing them right now, but that doesn’t mean it’s safe to attend. You’re putting yourselves, the staffs, and teams at risk. Please don’t go.'

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MLB oughtta shut Spring Training down. It's almost done anyways, less than 2 weeks to go. Got no problem with what she said because she calls out MLB indirectly. Most fans in ST are blue hairs, the most susceptible group.


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She's got a lot of goofy ideas.


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She's mild mannered in comparison to others. Geraldo Rivera tells Fox News this morning that these are crazy run-down-the-hall-in-a-panic times -- so the govt should just GO FOR IT and give every American Age 18+ $1,000.00 cash right now because he believes that will help things tremendously.......ok, there are 210 MILLION adults. I havent checked the numbers but I doubt a standard calculator has enough room on it to show how much that sh!t would cost.

Gets better: he was asked how the govt can afford to do all that. Geraldo uses the Bernie Sanders Easy Button and sez oh the Treasury oughtta just print the money. There ya go. There's a studied, economically sound approach for ya (sarcasm).

Shortly after all this, he preaches to viewers to be calm and rationale so that we can all get thru this -- Cannot make this stuff up. Just cant.


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Footnote -- it was the tanned, toned, hardbodied Ainsley Everhardt who asked him how the govt can afford to do it. Ainsley, we thank you and your sunlamp for your smoking hot service.


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Nice spring day today. Should be first pitch at Nats Park right now. For years I had suggested that the Nats open against their minor league stars, they finally set that up and the whole start of the season gets canceled. Thanks China.

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Happy fucking opening day. At least we still have day drinking to look forward to.

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The union for the Nats Park concessions workers is pushing to have the team cover their salaries during the shut down. You know I'm not a pro union guy but in this case the team is still hitting my credit card for monthly season ticket payments so they have the cash flow. Hard part is figuring out who to pay when a lot of those workers come and go during the season. The team (along with all of MLB) has set aside a million bucks to pay stadium workers but I don't think that includes Levy employees. Of course a million spread over a thousand employees doesn't go very far.

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There's a lockdown. But the team is charging your CC for a service they are not providing ? Have they issued an explanation as to why they're doing this ? How long do they plan on doing it ?



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Not much communication from the team. The next monthly payment is in a couple weeks. The league wants to play double headers to avoid refunds. I also wonder how they'll handle single game sales, probably they'll offer rain checks.

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Not a Patriots fan at all, but kudos to Bob Kraft for arranging for his plane to go to China to pick up 1.2 million masks, which will be used for our medical personnel during the crisis. Dude said that the red tape involved to complete the project was the worst ever.

Getting an absolute thrill at seeing the WaPo sportswriters grasp to stay relevant by writing about ANYTHING sports-related as the Sports page's online User and Page View counts do a deep dive. At this rate they'll soon have an article about what socks Scherzer wore during the World Series.


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I can't say the last time I read anything from the Post. I was a big Chelsea Janes fan but after she left I doubt if I've clicked on more than a half dozen Post articles.

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Grumbling is increasing about the team indefinitely postponing instead of outright cancelling games, not refunding single game sales, and likely planning on collecting monthly payments next week.

https://dcist.com/story/20/04/09/with-baseball-on-hold-nationals-ticket-holders-are-stuck-in-limbo/

Also, MLB is looking at playing games in Arizona in empty ballparks for a month. So far Doolittle and Zimmerman have come out against it. Over privileged UVA types. Play some damn games, I need something to watch. If those guys don't want to get paid they can stay home. I'm sure that Soto and Robles will be ready to suit up.

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That may not be the team, but MLB. They're still trying to figure out how to get in as many games as possible. When there is a plan in place, I'm sure the Nats will address refunds and exchanges.


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MLB needs to have a Plan B. Aint gonna have buy-in from vets around the league on that. Of course, you pay me $2 mill a year and I'll stay in Antarctica for a year. Sign me up on dat sh!t.


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Originally Posted by TBP
That may not be the team, but MLB. They're still trying to figure out how to get in as many games as possible. When there is a plan in place, I'm sure the Nats will address refunds and exchanges.


Well that's awful convenient for the team that they are mandated by league rule to keep billing me. Best case at this point is missing a third of the season. At a minimum they should stop future payments.

Opening day single game prices were at a premium. If hope they don't think they can give us a standard rain check with black out dates.

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MLB needs to have a Plan B. Aint gonna have buy-in from vets around the league on that. Of course, you pay me $2 mill a year and I'll stay in Antarctica for a year. Sign me up on dat sh!t.



MLB is doing the right thing, they need to start back up eventually and it might take creative thinking. I just don't like hearing the guys who've earned enough for ten lifetimes complaining, they can sit out, there will be ballplayers eager to take their spots.

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Among the plans under consideration for 2020 are an all-Arizona plan, using the spring complexes, Chase Field, and a couple of college ballparks, and a plan to have everyone play in their spring training parks and play as the Cactus League and the Grapefruit League for 2020. They want to play as many games as possible, which likely means plenty of doubleheaders.


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Among the plans under consideration for 2020 are an all-Arizona plan, using the spring complexes, Chase Field, and a couple of college ballparks, and a plan to have everyone play in their spring training parks and play as the Cactus League and the Grapefruit League for 2020. They want to play as many games as possible, which likely means plenty of doubleheaders.



That's what I want.

I also saw that they are looking at playing the season in Japan.

No games have been canceled, just postponed, so MLB and StubHub are holding everyone's money. I understand StubHub's position, they can't get the money back from the sellers until the games are canceled and therefore they don't have the cash on hand to refund the buyers. MLB should outright cancel and refund April and May, then reevaluate the rest of the season next month.

Meanwhile you can buy Nats single game tickets on line still.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2020-04-10/mlb-coronavirus-dodgers-angels-ticket-refunds?_amp=true#click=https://t.co/PaLkfrruRT

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Excerpt from today's Boswell Q&A on the Nats and the upcoming season:

If they play perhaps an 81-game season with some late-Oct-to-Thanksgiving post-season in warm-weather sites or retractable dome parks, then the short season ought to HELP the Nats as much as any team and mor than most. It gives the Big Three and Anibal Sanchez a huge r4est after the tough '19 and, probably, lets you ride them hard through what might, at most be 100 games. The over-30 players would love an 80-to-100-game season plus playoffs. It's the long GRIND that gets them, especially August when they have already played 100 games. If there were quite a few doubleheaders, then you'd probably see 27 or even 28-man rosters. The vets wouldn't be expected to "play two." The Nats strong bench would help them --two good catchers and six good infielders for four spots.

All this is a gigantic "if." But, man, does MLB want to jam in a season if it possibly can --even in empty parks, which costs them ~40% of their revenue. There's a big difference between perhaps getting 35% of your expected annual revenue (or player salary) for an 81-game season, plus (probably) some expanded four-round post-season to sell to TV, and 0% for an entire year!

It's going to be a different financial world in MLB on the other side of this. Teams with (i9n hindsight) too many huge long-term contracts and smallish title windows are going to have tough decisions. The Nats may be glad that they didn't go the huge-contract way with Harper and Rendon and even that Max's last $30M year is in '21. Their only two big remaining contracts are for outstanding pitchers who'll be 31 (Strasburg and Corbin). Assuming Nats attendance spikes after a title year, Washington may be one of the teams that's well positioned for the next couple of free-agent off-seasons --whenever they are.

The Nats paid for Stras at what now look like top-of-the-market prices. But if anybody deserves it, he does after his 5-0 October. That title has his name all over it and that'll buy the franchise a ton of goodwill for a decade, or many much more. I never thought I'd think that NOT getting Rendon --at that $265M price-- might be a decent break. Not getting Harper, but using the money to rebuild the rest of the roster, I always said that might be the better way to go --because you could not afford to pay Bryce AND fix all the other problems after '18. Goes to show you never can tell.


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Agree with Boz about the Nats being well positioned for a short season. Not so sure about the long term impact.

The team just sent out notice that season plan holder collections are delayed from April until July. Which is good news for plan holders but it indicates that they have not yet cancelled any games, so I would not expect refunds for single game or secondary market sales.

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While I was looking at trades from 2009 the 2019 Nats did a Zoom watch party of game 7 and I missed it. It's well over four hours long so I'm not sure if I'm going to watch it or just check out all the highlights people are posting. Lots of goofing on each other and shitting on the Astros for cheating.


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Strasburg said he watched a replay of the World Series, and thought the tv guys in the booth were pro-Houston. At the time I didnt notice one way or another.

The other night I watched part of the MASN replay of Game 6 -- obviously The Nats went into the game down 3 games to 2.

Late in the game The Astros are leading 2-1, The Nats offense is sputtering for a 4th straight game, and Verlander is owning them. Then Eaton goes yard tying it up, and then Soto does same 2 batters later, putting Nats in the lead. Joe Buck and the rest of the TV booth reacted like they were at a wake.


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Well, look at who is a Nats fan. Excerpt from MLBTradeRumors.com:

Fauci envisioned a scenario where indeed baseball is able to launch a season by the middle of the summer — sans live fans, of course. “If you could get on television, Major League Baseball, to start July 4,” Fauci suggested, ” … Well, I think you’d probably get enough buy-in from people who are dying to see a baseball game. Particularly me. I’m living in Washington. We have the World Champion Washington Nationals. You know, I want to see them play again.”


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Well, look at who is a Nats fan. Excerpt from MLBTradeRumors.com:

Fauci envisioned a scenario where indeed baseball is able to launch a season by the middle of the summer — sans live fans, of course. “If you could get on television, Major League Baseball, to start July 4,” Fauci suggested, ” … Well, I think you’d probably get enough buy-in from people who are dying to see a baseball game. Particularly me. I’m living in Washington. We have the World Champion Washington Nationals. You know, I want to see them play again.”



Uh oh, don't let the Doolittle's see that, they want everything shut down and everyone's salaries paid in full indefinitely.

Meanwhile you have Nats fans in the Washington Post complaining that they took advantage of the team offering face value World Series tickets if they bought a 2020 plan, but they no longer want the plan, they want a full refund now that the WS is over.

Where the team needs to be careful is dealing with the SPH group leaders, it was already a major pain running a group, if the primary plan holders end up losing big dollars a lot of long term groups will fall apart for 2021.

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A couple of Mets fans have started a class action suit against MLB based on the games being canceled vs postponed. Representing both plan holders and single game buyers. I agree that the first two months should be canceled and not postponed so that refunds can be processed.

There is no way to make up 30+ missed games this season. Giving plan holders rain checks won't work because we already have tickets to the future games and the replacement tickets are never as good as our regular seats. Even if the games come back in July you will have people unable to attend due to health concerns. I could see the team making refunds to plan holders who commit to buy again in 2021 and rain checks for those who signed up to get the World Series priority but now want to back out.

Single game sales are tougher. Rain checks good through 2021 would be fine but a lot of us bought opening day tickets at a premium price. I want a refund for those tickets so I don't end up getting stuck with a mid week Marlins game that I paid big money for.

The guys really getting screwed are the leaders on the season plan groups. They have group members who want their cash back and want out. But the Nats are holding the money. If the team screws over the group leaders they will have a lot of long time groups fall apart. Probably instead of sending me daily ads for me to buy stuff they should just mail me a hat or shirt or something.

(Also of note from ESPN, as of yesterday the Nats were one of eight teams that had not committed to pay their employees through May. Although I expect that the team will step up and pay.)


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Would you take a rain check and a partial refund?


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IF they go with the Florida-Arizona plan, this is the likely alignment:

Cactus League
Northeast -- Arizona Diamondbacks, Chicago Cubs, Colorado Rockies, Oakland Athletics, San Francisco Giants
Northwest -- Kansas City Royals, Milwaukee Brewers, San Diego Padres, Seattle Mariners, Texas Rangers
West -- Chicago White Sox, Cincinnati Reds, Cleveland Indians, Los Angeles Angels, Los Angeles Dodgers

Grapefruit League
East -- Houston Astros, Miami Marlins, New York Mets, St. Louis Cardinals, Washington Nationals
North -- Detroit Tigers, New York Yankees, Philadelphia Phillies, Pittsburgh Pirates, Toronto Blue Jays
South -- Atlanta Braves, Baltimore Orioles, Boston Red Sox, Minnesota Twins, Tampa Bay Rays

Remember, the alignments would be based on the location of the spring training parks.


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Would you take a rain check and a partial refund?


The fun part of this is that I don't expect to be given a choice, I expect the team to refund the minimum amount allowed based on the law, MLB directives, and court order, but a mix of rain checks plus some money back would be interesting. I just hope we can get the games back in DC this year and have it safe for the crowds to return.

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The Twins GM Dave St Peter (great porn name) said that MLB will be issuing teams guidance on "refunds, credits or other incentives" by Tuesday next week. I'd expect credits and other incentives for plan holders, the Nats policy is always to squeeze the most loyal customers the hardest. The refunds for single game buyers will be processed 30-60 days following the cancelation.

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Ms Hyman from the law firm that filed the class action suit against MLB is looking for anyone who is interested in jumping in her suit.

"Kelly Hyman, Attorney at Milberg, will be going over the recent class action complaint filed in California and how Milberg is helping #MLB fans get access to the funds that are unfairly being held. Additionally, Kelly will give an overall update on the case. TO LEARN MORE VISIT: https://milberg.com/…/mlb-ticket-refund/ Attorney Advertising - See Disclaimer on About Us Page"

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MLB announced today that they are allowing teams to determine their own refund policies. I'm expecting the funds to hit my credit card by Friday.

Additionally, a plan was revealed to start playing games in July, with realigned divisions, with empty ballparks. Doolittle's wife isn't going to let him play this season, but I don't care, get nine guys in Nats uniforms and I'll be watching. Play ball.

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Cubs, Angels, White Sox, Red Sox, Phillies, Cards, Indians, Twins, Reds, Pirates, Padres, Giants, As, Mariners, Orioles, Rangers, Royals, Astros, Blue Jays.

By my count, 19 of 30 teams have now offered refunds for April and May games. The standard offer is a full refund or a bonus credit if you use the tickets this fall or in 2021. The Orioles are offering a 25% bonus if you exchange the tickets for a game in 2021 or 2022.

The Brewers just became the first team to only offer exchanges, no refunds.

Still waiting on the Nats. If offered I'm taking the refund. Why do I need credits for more tix if I already have a plan. Plus, no chance that I'll be allowed to resell tickets purchased via credits, there will likely be black out dates, and the credits will be good for full price tickets which I can probably find better than 25% off for most games. It kind of sux that the team is going to take a major financial hit in a season when they should be flush, but I'm taking my money anyway.

Here is the Red Sox policy:

"Individual ticket-holders can receive a full refund from the Red Sox, a credit to their account for later this season or in 2021, or an exchange of tickets for a future game this season.

Season ticket-holders will have the same refund and credit options, with the perk that choosing an account credit will result in a 10 percent bonus credit that is “incremental to the total dollar amount of their season tickets for these games,” according to the team.

Ticket-holders will receive an email to make their selection. No response will mean an automatic refund."

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no chance that I'll be allowed to resell tickets purchased via credits,


Why not? How do they stop you?


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The Nats deal with StubHub allows them to block certain resales, plan holders are not allowed to resell reward or exchange tickets. Sometimes they block the bar code from being listed and sometimes they call you after the sale with a warning that future perks will be cut off if you keep selling. You can still sell via other sites but for Nats tickets StubHub has the most buyers and least hassle despite the sky high fees.

The Nats are fortunate that only 24 home games in April and May have been canceled, they would have had 33 road games, so a lot fewer games impacted. They have to be looking at the laws in DC, MD, and VA, I bet they wish they could limit refunds based on DC law, but from what I've seen they will need to refund fans from Virginia.

I'd be surprised if they don't push plan holders to donate some or all of the money to the Nats Dream Foundation (now renamed). I'd bet they're also trying to see if they can make refunds conditional on signing up for 2021.

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Well done on the thread title.


Like the Washington Post and NY Times I do enjoy slapping on a click bait headline.

The Braves announced their refund policy this morning. 20 teams are offering refunds, one is not, and nine have not yet released their policies.

The Dodgers, Rays and Marlins are now offering refunds. Only six teams left.

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The Mets and Yankees are both offering credits not refunds for cancelled games. The Tigers are doing refunds.

There are three teams yet to announce their policies, the Rockies, DBacks, and Nationals.

The Nats ticket reps are calling plan holders to say that their policy will not be released until next week and that they are working on a package to try to entice fans to forego the refunds. That better be one hell of an offer to get me to pass up cash when we still have no idea when the ballpark will open again.

The Rockies are now offering refunds, it is down to just Arizona and DC left to announce whether they will offer refunds.

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Since the Nats are going to make us wait until next week to see their incentive package to not take the refunds, the other big news this week is the potential realignment of divisions for 2020. MLB is considering dropping from six to three divisions and having all games played within the divisions to limit travel. Games would start in July at the regular home ballparks with no fans.

First of all, screw the no fans deal, I've been to every home opener and I'm not stopping now.

Second, even though it would mean universal DH, I love the new divisions. Having the Nats in the same division as the Red Sox, Yankees, and Orioles would be sweet. The big issue is that MLB swapped the Braves into the Central division for some reason. I like picking up the Pirates, but ditch the Blue Jays instead. That would be the best damn division in the history of pro sports.

Let's play ball.

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They should offer refunds in full at least for April. If they want to do it on a month-by-month basis, incase there is a season and fans can attend, I don't have a problem with that.

I'd throw in a mask and some future ticket opportunities.


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They should offer refunds in full at least for April. If they want to do it on a month-by-month basis, incase there is a season and fans can attend, I don't have a problem with that.

I'd throw in a mask and some future ticket opportunities.



With 28 teams offering 28 different plans and fans of those teams misinterpreting those offers it's hard to predict what the Nats will present next week. The team claims that the delay is so that they can make the best offer possible to convince us to waive our rights to a refund. One thing that I saw that is concerning is that while most of the attention has been on the carrots teams are offering, primarily extra money added to the trade in value for tickets, some teams are also waiving sticks to discourage fans from taking the money. I could imagine losing access to Red Carpet Rewards and ticket exchanges as possible penalties.

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According to USA Today the Nats are the only team left that has not yet offered refunds for at least April. The team has told season plan holders that is coming this week.

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ALERT: The Nats are offering refunds! In response to a question about single game tickets in April the team Twitter account offered a refund. Still no official word for season plan holders.


@NatsParkService: Thank you so much for reaching out. Please email me at service@nationals.com with your ticket information to discuss refunds.

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What in the wide wide world of sports is going on over at South Capitol? 28 teams started processing refunds last week and the 29th earlier this week. I don't have a problem with the team taking their time to get it right but at least send me an email with a status. The ticket reps are hyping up the Nats offer, saying that it will be the best in the league. I can believe that, but it's the potential penalties for taking the refund that interest me more. Meanwhile I get daily email ads trying to get me to send them more money.

In the past the team has updated their website with info on upcoming promotions and offers before making an official announcement. You can find the details if you guess the url. I might have to try to see if I can sniff that out.

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The Talk Nats blog just announced that they have word that the Nats policy will not be released this week. 29 other teams had their policies out in 2-3 days, most the same day as the MLB announcement. While the Nats are trying to get everything right they continue to accrue interest on the cash they are holding.

It would not be so annoying if the team just communicated the status once a week or so instead of leaving that task up to the individual ticket reps. My rep tried to call me two weeks ago and left I message, I returned his call and left him a message, nothing since then. So I have received zero information directly from the team in over a month and I spend about five grand a year on tickets. Every day they wait just confirms my instinct to take the refund if offered.

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Got my daily spam email from the Nats online store, they want me to give them $25 for branded China Virus masks. The Lerners just can't seem to figure out the process to reverse the flow of money from their customer's banks accounts into theirs.

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Excerpt from Boswell's online chat today:

Q: DC season tickets
The Capitals and Wizards have announced their plan for season ticketholders. The Capitals and Wizards informed season ticketholders that they are keeping all money paid for 2019-20, but crediting money paid for unplayed games toward 2020-21 payments. Monumental is also applying a bonus credit equal to 3% of the credit for the unplayed games. What are your thoughts on this? Have you heard anything about what the Nats plan to do? So far, the Nats have suspended April payments until July. I assume the Redskins will wait to do anything until closer to August, if necessary.

A: Thomas Boswell
This is simple. And applies to all teams.

There is only one ethical stand-up policy.

Many people who have season tickets --or season tickets which they split up with a whole bun ch of other other people in a group (like me and my wife w Nats tickets)-- do NOT need money right now. They are OK.

Well, those people --like me-- are totally IRRELEVANT.

Because, on the other side of the coin, there are people --and I've been getting e-mails from them-- who DO NEED MONEY and they need it NOW. They are out of work. Or they have sick family members who need financial help. Or they are super-fans who regard their sports tickets as, perhaps, their No. 1 Entertainmemt Expense BY FAR but, in a pandemic, they just can't AFFORD it any more.

THOSE people should ALL get refunds for 100% of canceled games IF THEY REQUEST IT. And there should be an easily accessible way --posted on the team's web sight, as well as other means on communication (e-mail, even "mail")== that explains how you get that refund.

Teams don't HAVE to do this. I suppose, legally, MAYBE they can just "roll out" the money you sent them for tickets into the future and try to make you happy by including some "discount" on future tickets that you get with the money they are keeping in their sticky hands.

But, during a pandemic, this is AWFUL policy. Everybody is re-evaluating how they live, how they spend, how financially sound they are and where they want to reduce future expenses.

Plenty of people don't give a damn right now about some ticket in '21 --or whether they get a 3% discount (or a 20% discount in the case of some MLB teams) in the future.

They need their money back NOW. I have so sad e-mails from good fans telling me the specific reason that they want their refund money for games that have already been canceled.

The team that may get clobbered on this first is the Nats. USA Today ran a story more than a week ago about how 29 or 30 MLB teams at least had made some public statement on how they would handle games that have already been canceled. Almost all the teams make a big pitch about how to get "apply" the money to future games with some "sweetener" attached --some as much a 30% kicker to induce you to let them keep your money. But ALL of them, somewhere, even if it is just a phone number to call for more info, have a way to find out How Do I Get My Money Back?

The only team that, at least as orf yesterday, still had made no such statement was the Nationals.

The Mets explanation to their fans ran more than 1,00 words. TRhe Nats have indicated that their policy will be coming soon. Well, I have seen it yet. GET MOVING.

I won't comment in depth on the Wiz and Caps because I haven't studied their policies yet. Dear Chatter, if your description of the Monumental policy is correct, they my first impression is that I don't like it.

I understand the rationale --it's like a "rain check" for a canceled game. You paid for a ticket. The team got the money and it is not giving it back. You can use the raincheck for a future game.

Well, we aren't in a rain storm right now, we are in a death and suffering storm. If big-time pro sports think that this is "business as usual" they are going to have a shock.

The new policy for every team better be simple: ACT RIGHT.

And the only way to act right is to refund money for any canceled games to the fans who say they want a refund. No explanation required.

In a sense, I wrote an entire column about this last week. The ecosystem of sports in changing after this natural disaster. The fans better not remain at the bottom of the food chain --or they may not come back in the same numbers post-pandemic. And maybe not ever.

If you want them back, you BETTER act right now. Some people NEED that refund money to pay bills, or rent, TODAY. Billionaire owners need to get that through their heads.


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Team communication continues to be next to non-existent. They must be at a complete standstill over at HQ trying to figure out what they can offer that beats refunds. I wonder if the team has the liquidity to pay back 100% of the tickets?

Meanwhile Sean Doolittle is in absolute meltdown mode over the idea that MLB might actually start scheduling baseball games again. He wants to cancel the season for the good of the ballpark employees, who in his eyes are too dumb to make up their own minds about whether or not they want to report to work. In my next life I should be so entitled as to sit back in my mansion and dictate when the little people can and can't go back to work.

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Yes, it's easy for Doolittle and his fellow lefties to act like they're concerned with other people's welfare.


Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.
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Originally Posted by PowerBoater69
Team communication continues to be next to non-existent. They must be at a complete standstill over at HQ trying to figure out what they can offer that beats refunds. I wonder if the team has the liquidity to pay back 100% of the tickets?

Meanwhile Sean Doolittle is in absolute meltdown mode over the idea that MLB might actually start scheduling baseball games again. He wants to cancel the season for the good of the ballpark employees, who in his eyes are too dumb to make up their own minds about whether or not they want to report to work. In my next life I should be so entitled as to sit back in my mansion and dictate when the little people can and can't go back to work.


Fine. If the season is cancelled, and those ballpark employees undoubtedly lose their jobs and cannot make rent or mortgage payments, let dumbass Doolittle and his wife bail them out.

With an 81 game schedule planned the MLB owners, unsurprisingly, do not want to prorate player contracts with the possibility of HUGE revenue losses if fans are prohibited (or limited) from attending games. Especially with the "Second Wave" threat. Yesterday Players Assoc Exec Tony Clark pouted about a 50/50 revenue split offer from the owners, and he said "(the 50/50 proposal) restricts player pay (which is) based on revenues is a salary cap -- period." A pollyannish statement that is Reason # 924 why I cannot stand unions.

Goldman Sachs predicted that by late Summer the Stock Market will tank another 20%. Swear I hope Im wrong but I fear this country is going to be in a dangerous place in 90-120 days, maybe sooner. These a-hole players and their union can go fvck themselves.




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Dont know what its like up there but here in Central VA I'll bet about half of the people Age 40+ I've seen in the grocery stores dont bother to wear masks or gloves. 20 and 30 somethings its probably over 75% that dont wear masks or gloves. Bedwetter Doolittle is more worried than most of these people, obviously


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If the guy at my local gun shop can show up to work every day so can the MASN cameraman. Or he can stay home, the socialists aren't in charge yet, he still has a choice.

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Yes, it's easy for Doolittle and his fellow lefties to act like they're concerned with other people's welfare.


Irrelevant because this is nothing in comparison to the scenario where the players union and owners cannot get together on a deal to play baseball and the season is cancelled. Will both sides come to a deal? Probably. If not? The hate and anger both sides caught from fans during the 90s strike aint gonna be Jack in comparison to what they'll see with an economy approaching 20% unemployment. If Doolittle and his buddies bleed over concession workers having jobs than come to a damn agreement with the owners. And if the season's cancelled than I dont care what side of the political aisle you're on, as far as I'm concerned both the union and the owners can go straight to hell.


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The refund policy has been announced, anyone can request a refund, for games scheduled up to today. "Service" fees will not be refunded. It includes single game and ticket plans. It will take 4-6 weeks to process. I'm curious to see if this means forfeiting your seat location for 2021.

The big news is the 50% bonus if you use the money on future games. (You still lose the fees.) Sounds great but there is a mile of small print. All sorts of things you can't use the bonus on. As a plan holder I don't need more tickets, so would I really spend thousands on food and souvenirs? It's like offering someone a million bucks but they can only spend it on what they can carry out of the dollar store.

The biggest restriction is that the bonus is non transferable. Which means that people who run ticket groups won't be able to easily share the benefit.

I'm going to read everything again but my initial impression is that it's better to have the cash now. Who knows what 2021 will bring, I'll bet on the resale values dropping not increasing.

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After reviewing the small print I've come to the following conclusion, the Nats over bid, this deal is way better than they needed to offer. Long time plan holders would have renewed with almost no bonus, they could have offered 10-20% and they'd have had just as many fans accept the offer. It's a truly great deal if you were going to renew for 2021 anyway. For the people who want out, either because they just bought the plan for World Series priority or they need the money, the offer won't change many minds. Single game buyers would be split regardless of the offer. So in my mind this was a miscalculation by the team.

First, let's assume there will be no home games with fans in 2020. Maybe a miracle will happen, but most likely the offer is strictly for 2021. Let's also assume that we're back to normal in 2021 just out of wishful thinking.

If you were going to renew anyway this is found money. You can go on a spending spree every game in 2021. However there are major limitations:
--The big one is that you can't transfer credits. Not ideal if you are running a ticket group and need to share the benefits. Either you don't share, you send out your own cash and keep the team credits, or you become a ticket service for your group.
--You can't sell bonus tickets. Not a surprise, this is a standard rule for the Nats, but still lowers the value.
--No parking passes is a big restriction, since I already have tons of tickets, and I'd have tons of credits, one way to use them up would have been parking.
--Lots of black out items in the team store, basically the big dollar items are out. Since you have thousands to spend and you don't want more tickets, this really limits you. How many hats and shirts do you need?
--No post season, no tickets and no use of credits for concessions. That sure would have been a good way to spend a few thousand dollars in credits.
--No price lock and no guarantee that red carpet rewards will return in 2021. Doubtful that they'll raise prices, but they could, and they could definitely reduce the existing benefits to offset the cost of the 50% bonus.
--It looks like merchandise needs to be purchased at the team store. Not a huge deal, but if you are trying to spend $1,000 before it expires an online option would be nice.
--The 2021 expiration really puts the pressure on to use up the credits fast. I think I'd rather have the Os deal of 25% but they are good through 2022.
--You lose out on coupon codes, plan holder discounts, and special offers. The credits aren't going to be available to be combined with other offers.
--The team is making fans choose now what percentage of the bonus credits to use for tickets vs concessions. It would be nice to have one pool of credits, two pools increases the probability that credits will go unused.

Finally, what if the Nats make the playoffs this year, team policy is that money for playoff games not played can only be spent on tickets for the following season. So if I've rolled over my 2020 payment and then the team is eliminated early the Lerners will have a very large amount of my money that they will not be obligated to refund.

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A few more questions:

--For red carpet rewards the team offers a small number of Diamond Club seats for that program, the majority are available for purchase, will the credits program be the same or will the credits be like cash with no restrictions on tickets purchased? Will Presidents club tickets be available with credits?
--Will there be black out dates when I can't use credits?
--For suites the RCR program does not include food and beverages, will the credits be available for food in the suites? Will I be able to pool credits with other fans to get a suite?
--Will the beer vendors and 50/50 raffle guys accept credits?
--If I upgrade seats via the exchange program can I use credits to cover the difference?

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The rule about no credit transfers does not apply to season ticket groups. Group leaders are being allowed to do a one time transfer of credits.

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Q&A today with Tom Boswell:

Q: Nats 50 percent credit
You were highly critical of the Nats silence on refunds and credits for unplayed games. What is your take in light of the announcement that the Nats are giving a 50 percent credit for money spent on 2020 unplayed games, or a complete refund if so desired?

A: Thomas Boswell
Well done, Nationals!

Slow, very slow, to get the announcement out --the last of the 30 teams, but what they finally offered seems excellent. I'll never know, but I'll always hope, that the ol' chat rant last week helped get you that last few percent.

Since the Nats made their announcement the next day, I think it's a fair assumption that they were going to offer a good deal. From what I've seen, other teams are at 10-to-30 percent "bonus" on money the team gets to keep. IOW, if they have $100 of your money in their hands and you let them keep it, then the MLB team gives you credit for $110, or $120 or $130 of future tickets or, depending on the team, tickets and concessions or whatever.

If I'm reading the Nats correctly, they are giving you $150 for your $100 and you can use if for tickets, concessions, etc., in '20 and '21. I kicked 'em last week to "get going." So I'll give a little "hip, hip..." now and say that anybody who NEEDS that refund money appears like they can get it back, while everybody else just got a pretty nice pandemic present.

— MAY 18, 2020 3:08 EDT


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The Nats are coming back on July 4th, do I wear my Nats or my US flag China Virus mask?

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Corbin ($30 million career earnings) is the latest to say that the players will need to be properly compensated to come back this year. I've got no problem with a guy calling his union rep and demaniding a strong negotiating stance, the teams are worth billions, the players should get their share, but spare me the crying in public.

The funniest thing is all of the fans who for some reason want the season cancelled. I'm reading that somehow the 2020 World Series win will be tainted. In 1945 a one armed player made the majors while all of the able bodied guys were fighting the war, I checked the Detroit Tigers site and they seem to be fairly proud of all of their World Series wins, including '45, not a hint of taint.

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Good call, hadnt thought of the tainted WS this year. If alot of players bag on this season, especially superstars, it would look tainted.

Looks like NASCAR and pro golf is back and I dont hear any of them bitching. And that's something baseballers oughtta take into consideration before bagging the season and/or crying about full pay.

Q: Where's the $7 million ?
Blake Snell said last week that it was too dangerous for him to risk his life playing for $2 million for 4 months, but suggested it WAS worth risking his life if he got his full salary of $7 million, which makes no sense -- ?? -- to me the real issue is that he's not happy about a salary cut. I get that athletes who get this virus are risking their life at worst, and at the least are risking their own future health AND the health of their families. I get that, and respect that. So if they do not want to play this season, I am fine with that, too. But after the Gal Gadot video nonsense, a country that may approach unemployment numbers of 30% does not want to hear this nonsense from millionaires. The first thing agents should have done in February is to tell their players to keep rants like this away from the public.

A: Thomas Boswell
Good points.

Nobody can FORCE an MLBer to play if he feels he is risking his health. "There's always next year."

Would there be bad feelings between a team and player in such circumstances. Maybe. But I think plenty of teams --and I'd guess the Nats would be in this camp-- would say, "We get it. There is nothing normal about 2020. Your call."


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Originally Posted by PowerBoater69
While I was looking at trades from 2009 the 2019 Nats did a Zoom watch party of game 7 and I missed it. It's well over four hours long so I'm not sure if I'm going to watch it or just check out all the highlights people are posting. Lots of goofing on each other and shitting on the Astros for cheating.


https://m.facebook.com/Nationals/videos/289754478678137/


https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...stros-cheating-scandal-trash-banger-beer

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Requested my refunds. Too many restrictions on the use of the credits and too much uncertainty about next year. I'd rather put the money in the stock market.

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No reply from the team, shocking that they'd slow roll the response to a refund request.

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