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Re: Nats themed Corona Virus masks [Re: PowerBoater69] #605133
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Yes, it's easy for Doolittle and his fellow lefties to act like they're concerned with other people's welfare.


Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.
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Originally Posted by PowerBoater69
Team communication continues to be next to non-existent. They must be at a complete standstill over at HQ trying to figure out what they can offer that beats refunds. I wonder if the team has the liquidity to pay back 100% of the tickets?

Meanwhile Sean Doolittle is in absolute meltdown mode over the idea that MLB might actually start scheduling baseball games again. He wants to cancel the season for the good of the ballpark employees, who in his eyes are too dumb to make up their own minds about whether or not they want to report to work. In my next life I should be so entitled as to sit back in my mansion and dictate when the little people can and can't go back to work.


Fine. If the season is cancelled, and those ballpark employees undoubtedly lose their jobs and cannot make rent or mortgage payments, let dumbass Doolittle and his wife bail them out.

With an 81 game schedule planned the MLB owners, unsurprisingly, do not want to prorate player contracts with the possibility of HUGE revenue losses if fans are prohibited (or limited) from attending games. Especially with the "Second Wave" threat. Yesterday Players Assoc Exec Tony Clark pouted about a 50/50 revenue split offer from the owners, and he said "(the 50/50 proposal) restricts player pay (which is) based on revenues is a salary cap -- period." A pollyannish statement that is Reason # 924 why I cannot stand unions.

Goldman Sachs predicted that by late Summer the Stock Market will tank another 20%. Swear I hope Im wrong but I fear this country is going to be in a dangerous place in 90-120 days, maybe sooner. These a-hole players and their union can go fvck themselves.




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Dont know what its like up there but here in Central VA I'll bet about half of the people Age 40+ I've seen in the grocery stores dont bother to wear masks or gloves. 20 and 30 somethings its probably over 75% that dont wear masks or gloves. Bedwetter Doolittle is more worried than most of these people, obviously


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If the guy at my local gun shop can show up to work every day so can the MASN cameraman. Or he can stay home, the socialists aren't in charge yet, he still has a choice.

Re: Nats themed Corona Virus masks [Re: TBP] #605146
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Originally Posted by TBP
Yes, it's easy for Doolittle and his fellow lefties to act like they're concerned with other people's welfare.


Irrelevant because this is nothing in comparison to the scenario where the players union and owners cannot get together on a deal to play baseball and the season is cancelled. Will both sides come to a deal? Probably. If not? The hate and anger both sides caught from fans during the 90s strike aint gonna be Jack in comparison to what they'll see with an economy approaching 20% unemployment. If Doolittle and his buddies bleed over concession workers having jobs than come to a damn agreement with the owners. And if the season's cancelled than I dont care what side of the political aisle you're on, as far as I'm concerned both the union and the owners can go straight to hell.


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The refund policy has been announced, anyone can request a refund, for games scheduled up to today. "Service" fees will not be refunded. It includes single game and ticket plans. It will take 4-6 weeks to process. I'm curious to see if this means forfeiting your seat location for 2021.

The big news is the 50% bonus if you use the money on future games. (You still lose the fees.) Sounds great but there is a mile of small print. All sorts of things you can't use the bonus on. As a plan holder I don't need more tickets, so would I really spend thousands on food and souvenirs? It's like offering someone a million bucks but they can only spend it on what they can carry out of the dollar store.

The biggest restriction is that the bonus is non transferable. Which means that people who run ticket groups won't be able to easily share the benefit.

I'm going to read everything again but my initial impression is that it's better to have the cash now. Who knows what 2021 will bring, I'll bet on the resale values dropping not increasing.

Re: Nats themed Corona Virus masks [Re: PowerBoater69] #605149
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After reviewing the small print I've come to the following conclusion, the Nats over bid, this deal is way better than they needed to offer. Long time plan holders would have renewed with almost no bonus, they could have offered 10-20% and they'd have had just as many fans accept the offer. It's a truly great deal if you were going to renew for 2021 anyway. For the people who want out, either because they just bought the plan for World Series priority or they need the money, the offer won't change many minds. Single game buyers would be split regardless of the offer. So in my mind this was a miscalculation by the team.

First, let's assume there will be no home games with fans in 2020. Maybe a miracle will happen, but most likely the offer is strictly for 2021. Let's also assume that we're back to normal in 2021 just out of wishful thinking.

If you were going to renew anyway this is found money. You can go on a spending spree every game in 2021. However there are major limitations:
--The big one is that you can't transfer credits. Not ideal if you are running a ticket group and need to share the benefits. Either you don't share, you send out your own cash and keep the team credits, or you become a ticket service for your group.
--You can't sell bonus tickets. Not a surprise, this is a standard rule for the Nats, but still lowers the value.
--No parking passes is a big restriction, since I already have tons of tickets, and I'd have tons of credits, one way to use them up would have been parking.
--Lots of black out items in the team store, basically the big dollar items are out. Since you have thousands to spend and you don't want more tickets, this really limits you. How many hats and shirts do you need?
--No post season, no tickets and no use of credits for concessions. That sure would have been a good way to spend a few thousand dollars in credits.
--No price lock and no guarantee that red carpet rewards will return in 2021. Doubtful that they'll raise prices, but they could, and they could definitely reduce the existing benefits to offset the cost of the 50% bonus.
--It looks like merchandise needs to be purchased at the team store. Not a huge deal, but if you are trying to spend $1,000 before it expires an online option would be nice.
--The 2021 expiration really puts the pressure on to use up the credits fast. I think I'd rather have the Os deal of 25% but they are good through 2022.
--You lose out on coupon codes, plan holder discounts, and special offers. The credits aren't going to be available to be combined with other offers.
--The team is making fans choose now what percentage of the bonus credits to use for tickets vs concessions. It would be nice to have one pool of credits, two pools increases the probability that credits will go unused.

Finally, what if the Nats make the playoffs this year, team policy is that money for playoff games not played can only be spent on tickets for the following season. So if I've rolled over my 2020 payment and then the team is eliminated early the Lerners will have a very large amount of my money that they will not be obligated to refund.

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A few more questions:

--For red carpet rewards the team offers a small number of Diamond Club seats for that program, the majority are available for purchase, will the credits program be the same or will the credits be like cash with no restrictions on tickets purchased? Will Presidents club tickets be available with credits?
--Will there be black out dates when I can't use credits?
--For suites the RCR program does not include food and beverages, will the credits be available for food in the suites? Will I be able to pool credits with other fans to get a suite?
--Will the beer vendors and 50/50 raffle guys accept credits?
--If I upgrade seats via the exchange program can I use credits to cover the difference?

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The rule about no credit transfers does not apply to season ticket groups. Group leaders are being allowed to do a one time transfer of credits.

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Q&A today with Tom Boswell:

Q: Nats 50 percent credit
You were highly critical of the Nats silence on refunds and credits for unplayed games. What is your take in light of the announcement that the Nats are giving a 50 percent credit for money spent on 2020 unplayed games, or a complete refund if so desired?

A: Thomas Boswell
Well done, Nationals!

Slow, very slow, to get the announcement out --the last of the 30 teams, but what they finally offered seems excellent. I'll never know, but I'll always hope, that the ol' chat rant last week helped get you that last few percent.

Since the Nats made their announcement the next day, I think it's a fair assumption that they were going to offer a good deal. From what I've seen, other teams are at 10-to-30 percent "bonus" on money the team gets to keep. IOW, if they have $100 of your money in their hands and you let them keep it, then the MLB team gives you credit for $110, or $120 or $130 of future tickets or, depending on the team, tickets and concessions or whatever.

If I'm reading the Nats correctly, they are giving you $150 for your $100 and you can use if for tickets, concessions, etc., in '20 and '21. I kicked 'em last week to "get going." So I'll give a little "hip, hip..." now and say that anybody who NEEDS that refund money appears like they can get it back, while everybody else just got a pretty nice pandemic present.

— MAY 18, 2020 3:08 EDT


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