The team has given up, quit..... need to back the truck up and trade/unload most all of the veteran position players... After watching this season I'd say trade Bell and Dickerson too. Hurdle needs to be fired.... just start over, keep Meadows and let the rest go....as bad as Diaz has been behind the plate, I'd keep him too....


Consensus is anyplace without Martin trumps Martin, even with an ignore button.