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We signed OF Hyun-soo Kim !! #528640
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Soo !!

$7 MM for two years

win!!


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Soo what? If that's the OBP Machine, I highly approve this move. High reward, no risk.


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His name is Hyun-soo Kim. And yes, it's the OBP machine.


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.318/.406/.488 in 10 career seasons - there's your leadoff hitter.

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https://twitter.com/MyKBO/status/677307791413874688

Kim's cheering song. Apparently they shout Hyun! Soo! Kim! During the 1-2-3 parts.

Welcome to Bawlmer, Hyun.


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Hopefully, he doesn't Suk.

But seriously, I'd rather take a chance on somebody like this than pay a ridiculously inflated sum for Boras' Span. And I'm sure there are still other options out there to explore.

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Kim has put up a big .318/.406/.488 slash in the offensively robust KBO, and last year had his best-ever showing. Not only did he slash .326/.438/.541, but Kim also banged a career-best 28 home runs. But Kim?s real calling card is in the on-base arena. Unlike some other KBO players who have moved over to MLB (or have shown interest in doing so), Kim is a master of plate discipline. Last year, he struck out only 63 times while drawing 101 free passes.

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Sounds like a good signing to me. I'm not sure how his offensive numbers will translate to MLB, but at least they're looking for the right things. And there is certainly a big Korean community in this area. There are Korean churches, Korean grocery stores, Korean restaurants, Korean auto repair places, and assorted other Korean businesses. If he decides to live in the Catonsville-Ellicott City area, he should feel right at home, and could probably get by without ever learning a word of non-baseball English.


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His nickname is "The Hitting Machine".
His calling card is plate discipline ... and consistency!
Became a regular at 19.
Agent is Esther Lee and Wasserman Group.

Still looking for an answer to this question: If he's signed a two-year deal, does he become a FA after 2017 season? Or is he impacted by arb system, and we have control for additional years? I assume he becomes a FA. But I don't know the arb rules and how they are applied to certain signings (including Bundy), particularly International players.


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Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports has more ...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--ko...618417-mlb.html

Left handed batter. 6' 3" 220.
Likely to slot in LF, has played some 1B !
Adequate defensive skills
Career .318 BA is third best among KBO players
Plays in one of KBO's toughest hitting environments
Currently batting in 3-hole, in front of Dae-ho Lee and recent Twins signee Byung-ho Park (got $12.8 million) on a Korean Premiere Tournament team.

So far, love this signing!



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i am glad. for so long the team didn't ever do anything 'unusual' (good, i mean, not stupid like going to cuba during the season or not having a unified spring training site).

now they know that the world is bigger than aruba.

maybe this works out, maybe it doesn't. but it's definitely proactive and i am ready to see bul go gi on sale at one of the concession stands.

went to a game in korea. it was freakin' fun.

my uncle was there from 1950-1954. a different kind of game. came back w/a silver star, which is almost as good as the brooks robinson statuette i once got at an o's game.

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I love his bat flip.


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For some context...

Eric Thames was a .305/.383/.508 guy across all minor league levels; hit .250/.296/.431 in MLB; and has put up back to seasons of .343/.422/.688 and .381/.497/.790 in the KBO.


Andy Marte was a .280/.350/.484 guy across all minor league levels; hit .218/.276/.358 in MLB; and put up a .348/.414/.569 season last year in the KBO.


Brett Pill was a .285/.332/.464 guy across all minor league levels; hit .233/.279/.404 in MLB; and has put up back to back seasons of .309/.352/.541 and .325/.372/.517 in the KBO.


Yamaico Navarro hit 64 HRs in 2,707 minor league ABs and hit 79 over the past two seasons in the KBO.


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It's not all doom & gloom. More context:

Jung-Ho Kang hit .298/.383/.504 in 9 seasons in the KBO.
Last year, for Pittsburgh, he hit .287/.355/.461 with 15HR in 126 games.

I'd take that for $3.5M/yr. And Kim's a better hitter than Kang based on a decade of each overseas.


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Originally Posted By: smitty
And Kim's a better hitter than Kang based on a decade of each overseas.


He certainly wasn't better in 2014. Kang's numbers were by far the best in the KBO, while you've got to look pretty far down the list to find Kim:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/japanese-and-korean-prospects-in-context/


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Uh...okay?


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You guys know the League Average OPS is declining across MLB, right?
2015: ---- .728 AL and .730 NL.

On this guy? Give me the Over


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Me too. No complaint if he suks. He can't actually be worse than the triple douche we released last season.


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Right, this is a low-risk, high-reward type deal. I think it was definitely worth the gamble.


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Jep, I like this much better than Lough, Snider Dahupsefluts or Young from last year.

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De Aza, Paredes, the turds kept flailing.

If I'm his interpreter, I'm leading with How do you do, my name is Soo! Because a capella karaoke.


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Originally Posted By: Bill
Snider Dahupsefluts

Gesundheit.


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Originally Posted By: Great8
Right, this is a low-risk, high-reward type deal. I think it was definitely worth the gamble.


I agree. It's just that given the considerably lower level of play in the KBO, I'm not ready to pencil him in as a starter, or even as necessarily making the club out of spring training. This article says it's pretty much equivalent to high-A ball here, and functions mainly as a feeder into the Japanese leagues, which are somewhere between AAA and the majors here.


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So he's the next Mancini? Close enough.


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This is nothing more than DD shopping at the Dollar Tree again.



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This is a big sumbee. I think they list him at 6'3" and 220 or so. A guy that big who is a contact hitter, could do some damage in OPACY.


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I think his being a contact hitter instead of a free swinger w/help him adjust to mlb.


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I Googled him looking for images that would show size in context. The first result was some kid or mannequin pulling antlers off his head. Uhh. Never mind.


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Originally Posted By: smitty
I Googled him looking for images that would show size in context. The first result was some kid or mannequin pulling antlers off his head. Uhh. Never mind.


He's in country one day, and he's running for the Republican nomination?


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FanGraphs' Jeff Sullivan thinks Kim will look familiar to O's fans.

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I've got a player in mind. He's a left-handed-hitting corner outfielder, and the last seven years, he's walked just a bit more than the league average. He's also struck out a third less than average, while running an ISO 18% below the average. He's profiled as a mediocre defender. He doesn't play in Baltimore anymore, but he did for a while, and his name is Nick Markakis.

Markakis, over the seven years, has averaged a win and a half per 600 plate appearances. That's definitely not outstanding. But Kim could reach this level, and that level is worth more than $3.5 million a season. Plus, there's a hint of upside - maybe Kim hits for league-average power. Maybe he plays as a league-average defender. He's young, he's durable, and he's going to play in a hitter-friendly environment. I don't think it's a stretch at all to suggest that Kim could be a perfectly average all-around player, and as unexciting as that might sound, value is value. The Orioles have plenty of holes, and they need to be efficient if they want to address them all. A proven major-league version of Kim might've required $20 - 25 million over the same amount of time. Perhaps even more.

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Oh please....was this writer in Korea the past several years watching this guy....nothing equates to major league level of play anywhere but here

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Nice! He weighs 30 pounds more than Markakis. That should count for something.


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Originally Posted By: BaseBawl
If I'm his interpreter, I'm leading with How do you do, my name is Soo! Because a capella karaoke.


Would his walk up music be " Sweet Soo....or...Wake up little Soozie" ?

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If I'm his interpreter, I'm leading with How do you do, my name is Soo! Because a capella karaoke.


Would his walk up music be " Sweet Soo....or...Wake up little Soozie" ?

I don't know what his walk up music will be, but here's his cheer song from Korea. Catchy! I like it.




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hitting to contact, might be our own ichiro knock-off. i'm going with optimism. that korean league might or might not be at one or another level in comparison w/a, aa, aaa. . . but it is major league in terms of atmospherics & media attention. ergo, the dude shouldn't get stage fright.

i predict he hits .305. based on absolutely nothing other than my sunny disposition!

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Well your disposition is sunny than mind....overpaid in my opinion which I can change at a moments notice or a 325 BA

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$7 mil for two years isn't an overpay for anyone these days, even if he's a bench player.


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Originally Posted By: Great8
$7 mil for two years isn't an overpay for anyone these days, even if he's a bench player.


Practically an insult. A good interpreter would probably have caught that.


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Too much, hasn't done a thing to earn it yet

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It's less than MLB average.


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Originally Posted By: DaYard
Well your disposition is sunny than mind....overpaid in my opinion which I can change at a moments notice or a 325 BA


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That was a very nice running catch, by Soo, in Great8's vid. If he plays a solid LF, he becomes far more likely to be the Opening Day starter in LF.

I've looked for Left Right splits, have not found anything. How does he fare against Lefties?


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Re: We signed the Korean !! [Re: mlbbirdfan] #528805
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BIG TIME GET by Dan Connolly ... Korean baseball analyst loves this guy! Buck will too!

Kim is a "fierce" competitor



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Re: We signed the Korean !! [Re: mlbbirdfan] #528806
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How can you say he will be anything at this point? He has never seen a major league pitch....and he gets that money and has not played one iota yet while Manny sits at what 500K? Is that fair?

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yep. Manny will get more than $5 million, soon; and $200 million, soon enough. Is that "fair"?

Lester, you understand markets. Fair is whatever the market will bear.


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Well this market sucks then.....when someone can walk in from an inferior league and get paid like that. I wouldn't be paying that money that's for sure

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Former major league pitcher CJ Nitkowski played with and against him in the KBO in 2009-10, and has good things to say about him. Thinks he could be the steal of the offseason, too. FWIW:

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Re: We signed the Korean !! [Re: Great8] #528822
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No nitpicker, he.


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Re: We signed the Korean !! [Re: BaseBawl] #528856
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look, if hoping for production from an unproven but evidently charismatic korean contact hitter is wrong. . . well, i don't wanna be right.

thing is, in a few months, we'll know. then, we can either gloat or grumble.

but i gotta find ways to perk up my 'tude. so i'm sticking with upbeat on this one. at least he's not from aruba.

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I have a hard time imagining that this guy won't be an upgrade, plate discipline is a pretty transferable skill, you either have it or you don't, even if his OBP is only .340 in the majors he'll both be an upgrade and cheaper than equivalent native talent would have cost.


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Re: We signed the Korean !! [Re: English Tom] #528872
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english tom, put me down for whatever you're drinking. well said.

Re: We signed the Korean !! [Re: expository writer] #529050
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Kim signing official! #25 in your programs, #1 in your hearts.


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Tried to sneak Olmos through waivers to clear a spot on the 40-man. He Olmos made it.

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He's a big SOB. Good thing they didn't pay by the pound.


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We lost Olmos???


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Cubs claimed him, of course.

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We Olmos had him though.


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Marlins claimed Tim Berry


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Re: We signed the Korean !! [Re: mlbbirdfan] #529071
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Olmos from Orioles to Cubs-the next Koufax.


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?He was very eager to come to MLB,? said Kim?s interpreter, Yeirang Esther Lee. ?He was a big fan since he was very little, and now he [so happy] that he could cry over here.?

Sounds pretty enthusiastic. Like.


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Re: We signed the Korean !! [Re: mlbbirdfan] #529133
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I let you know when I do.
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Who wouldn't be happy moving from Korea to the US. If Trump gets involved however....he may have to go back. wink


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