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Re: "Black Lives Matter" [Re: John Lease] #520129
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...a395_story.html

Here is something for mlb to read.

Don't bother MikeZ.


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Re: "Black Lives Matter" [Re: John Lease] #520131
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Well JL, since you challenged me to read it, I did. The article's ok except for one slickly-written paragraph.

Let?s take five steps back. The movement for police reform was not the invention of some leftist claque. It was a response to real and genuinely tragic events. Silencing protesters won?t make anything better.

It very neatly slides a hate group (when you go around chanting about killing police, that's what you are) under the legitimate title of "protestors". The reader is to assume that, by criticizing one group, FOX wants to stifle all protest of police practices. That's not what O'Reilly is saying.


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Re: "Black Lives Matter" [Re: mikezpen] #520137
03/09/2015 04:24
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You don't read for content.

I told you to not bother.

Your mind is closed.


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Re: "Black Lives Matter" [Re: John Lease] #520138
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Yours is closed by ideology. Your reasoning is thus: Some police abuse their authority and target blacks unfairly. BLM opposes these practices. Therefore BLM is legitimate and shouldn't be criticized,

If you can't see through this group of hate-mongering fanatics, then nothing anybody else says will matter.

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Re: "Black Lives Matter" [Re: mikezpen] #520148
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Your critique of them, from what I can gather from the increasingly frayed and angry rantings, is that they aren't staging an equally well-attended/organized/reported movement against black-on-black violence. Which has been pointed out to you as a false equivalency. That doesn't mean they are immune to criticism, it means your particular criticism doesn't have merit.


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Re: "Black Lives Matter" [Re: smitty] #520152
03/09/2015 05:43
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You can get a lot more rational thought out of him than I can smitty. He is the target audience of Fox spewing out that they are a 'hate' group.

Fox, of all organizations, talking about hate.

Well, they do have experience.


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Re: "Black Lives Matter" [Re: John Lease] #520154
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calling for the death of police isn't hate?


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Re: "Black Lives Matter" [Re: mikezpen] #520156
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Originally Posted By: mikezpen
calling for the death of police isn't hate?


Of course it is. But let me explain this very slowly, although you probably won't understand it, because you don't WANT to understand it, even then:

You are condemning an entire movement for the actions of a few people. And you're saying that black lives don't matter to anybody in the movement. That's just nuts. But it's not surprising, coming from somebody who defends the KKK and the American Nazi Party when they murder people.


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Re: "Black Lives Matter" [Re: Lee] #520160
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You're confusing "movement" with one group of fanatics.


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Re: "Black Lives Matter" [Re: mikezpen] #520168
03/09/2015 06:42
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...No, that's what you're doing. You're labeling BLM as advocating violence against police when a small group that participated in their protest did it. They didn't organize that bit, they didn't promote it, it's not part of their platform. You do realize that not everyone that shows up to these things is a full-fledged, card-carrying member, right? And they don't have control over what individuals say?


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