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White supremacists????? #605435
31/05/2020 09:47
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Minny's gov and that woman beater Ellison are trying to blame white supremacists for participating the rioting. What would they have to gain? Somebody s/defend those stores and they'd be doing the country a favor the police aren't doing. But that isn't happening.Maybe there are a few,but I think this is mostly a desperate attempt by inept liberal Dem. elected officials to deflect blame from leftist rioters and pin another make-believe prejorative on Trump. The useless Walzs, Cumos, Freys etc.have stood by blaming everybody but themselves and their fellow leftists for their communities burning.


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Re: White supremacists????? [Re: mikezpen] #605438
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I doubt that either White or Black extremists were responsible for the violence. I was not there, but I bet it was similar but on a larger scale to what happened in my city.
A lot of friends went downtown to demonstrate outrage.
A friend who is a pacifist and as close to being a saint as is anyone I have ever met described the protest as peaceful. He said the police presence was so understated that he initially did not remember seeing them.
People shouted, marched and made a ruckus for a couple of hours and some started to leave.
A few people threw water bottles at the "Justice Center"
The cops showed up and the large bulk of the 2-3 thousand people left, including my friend.
The rest is from news reports. Cops marched at the remaining crowd and used tear gas. People ran around and started throwing stuff (mostly water bottles) at targets. Bus shelters, cops, and some business place windows. Heavy police reaction. Spray painting and real destruction including the burning of three police cars occurred. Note: The spray painters were obviously ready. Paint does not appear spontaneously.
Watching the news, people were wandering all over downtown. Cameras showed cops used some violence to get people to move on, but even with the full police force, it did not stop more destruction.
The ones causing mayhem just moved elsewhere. For some reason I was watching the local FOX News. They said that a small handful caused the destruction.
Downtown is now under curfew.


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Re: White supremacists????? [Re: mikezpen] #605441
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A shopkeeper in Dallas was murdered by rioters while defending his store.


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Originally Posted by mikezpen
I think this is mostly a desperate attempt by inept liberal Dem. elected officials to deflect blame from leftist rioters and pin another make-believe prejorative on Trump.


Bingo. We have a winner.


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Originally Posted by pogo
People shouted, marched and made a ruckus for a couple of hours and some started to leave.


That's appropriate. Rioting is not.

These are organized. Almost all of the mayors and governors are talking about how many people from out of state came to cause trouble. I think I heard that six people were arrested in Cleveland, and five of them were from out of state.

I've seen several "demonstrators" interviewed who were wearing #Antifa style masks. Either they're Antifa, or they want you to think they are. There are a bunch of Black Lives Matter activists floating around too, plus of course, the agitator Al Sharpton decided to get involved. (Tawana Brawley, Freddie's Fashion Mart, etc.)

So yes, they're organized. Many of the rioters, however, are joining spontaneously, as you noted.


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Re: White supremacists????? [Re: TBP] #605447
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[quote=TBP][quote=pogo] I think I heard that six people were arrested in Cleveland, and five of them were from out of state.)
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Antifa would be appropriate as a reaction to murder. If you think "Black Lives Matter activists" are organized you haven't met any. Proud to say that my daughter has that sign on her tree lawn.
Your quote about arrests in Cleveland is about as accurate as your other "information" According to the local Fox station 66 were arrested. 20 are being held for vandalism and curfew violation.
Several were from northern Ohio, suburbs or exurbs around Cleveland. The rest from the city itself. If you can't trust Fox who can you trust?

We are in a time similar to that of the great riots and violence of the 60s. Massive unemployment and despair combines with the feeling of many urban Blacks that they are targets. Many just don't give a crap.
We all hate violence and vandalism. It helps no one other than to act as a concrete proof that people don't feel part of society.
Most Black males, (and many females), have been targeted by police for no good reason. (By most I mean 63% according to a survey.)
Just before Covin shutdown one of my best friends, a Black gray haired retiree, was pulled over. He was driving a spiffy Toyota. As it happens he drives LYFT in his retirement.
He showed the cop his badge from his last job as a TSA supervisor and asked the cop why he was pulled over. The cop gave no reason but said thank you. David got the cop badge # and said that he was going to follow through with
the guy's supervisor. Knowing David he may actually have done so.
If I were a tough kid or adult who didn't care much about anything but his family and heard about murder I have no idea how law abiding I would be.


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Re: White supremacists????? [Re: mikezpen] #605454
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You think the rioter element-vandals and looters, professional/amateur political extremists-were activated by Floyd or by a chance to benefit in some matter?

Why would criminal cartels want to do this as some claim? Drawing attention to themselves is bad for business.

Slightly more sensible-about three percent more sensible-to blame right wing extremists like WNs or boogaloo bois.Why w/they want to be identified with violence and attacks on businesses, being rightists and wanting recruits from the right? And any infraction as serious as a parking ticket w/bring down holy hades from the leftist media establishment and desperate Democrat politicians begging for a scapegoat who isn't black, a spawn of a Democrat politician, or aligned with Trotsky.Maybe a few far-rightists think that more violence will be blamed on the left so they're trying to inflame it-I don't know.But not that many.

Muslim fanatics-definitely have a motive. A few are probably involved, but not in big numbers.

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Re: White supremacists????? [Re: mikezpen] #605464
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It's sad that these lowlife fake news outlets and dumbocrats are trying to blame trump for everything bad that has happened in the history of this country.....


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Re: White supremacists????? [Re: pogo] #605470
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Originally Posted by pogo
Antifa would be appropriate as a reaction to murder.


What Antifa does is terrorism, and it's never appropriate. (It's also fascism.)

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If you think "Black Lives Matter activists" are organized you haven't met any.


I probably know more of them than you do, and yes, they're organized.

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66 were arrested. 20 are being held for vandalism and curfew violation.


So that's updated from when I heard it reported. Many were out-of-town agitators.

https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/06...ot-area-over-arrests-made-with-more-way/

https://fox8.com/news/ohio-national...-curfew-continues-after-violent-weekend/


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