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Re: Latest Democrat Scam [Re: mikezpen] #604661
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FYI.
Dr. Amy Acton, the Ohio Director of Health, just reported at our governor's daily press conference that 51% of Ohio covid deaths were white, 15% Black, 2% Hispanic.
The rest did not report race or ethnicity. Add a third to each of the death percentages to allow for unreporteds and you get about 68% white, 20% Black deaths.
Somehow at the Republican governor's press conference they thought this was important enough to report.

According to latest reported statistics Ohio was 81.51 white, 12.35% Black.
Which fits an assumption of greater percentages of urban deaths, but not an especially African-American susceptibility in Ohio.

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Re: Latest Democrat Scam [Re: pogo] #604665
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Boris Johnson's in ICU.


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Re: Latest Democrat Scam [Re: mikezpen] #604671
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Re: Latest Democrat Scam [Re: mikezpen] #604690
09/04/2020 11:10
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One, it was not the "Squad" who requested the stats, unless you are now generalizing what seem to be using as a derogatory term to apply to any Democratic leaders. The letter was signed by Senators Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker and Kamala Harris, and Representatives Ayanna Pressley and Robin Kelly (according to your link.)
And as usual you impute an exact knowledge of why Dems or liberals are advocating for anything. Somehow stats are okay if it helps focus, but asking for them (with a racial aspect) is malign.
And in your very statement you seem to be contradicting yourself. "Finding out" is okay, but not if it has a racial component? You lost me. "Racist scam by turds - - "

In other news, Andrew Cuomo (a presumably idiot supporter of turds) agrees with mikezpen that the greater urban concentration of African-Americans is responsible for their significantly greater incidence of cases and deaths.

The AP reports agree even more with mzp. Chicago: 52% of reported IL cases, 72% of reported deaths. Chicago is 30% Black. Michigan: 33% of cases, 41% of deaths. MI is 14% Black. Detroit & immediate suburbs have 80% of the state cases. The city (excluding suburbs) is 80% Black. In Louisiana 70% of the cases are African-American with 32% of the population.
What that report and others makes clear is that transmission inside a population spreads hugely once established. We get that from Italy, Spain and Detroit. Michigan's chief medical officer adds compounding conditions: obesity, diabetes and heart disease as being more general among the Black population.

Bad health and specific conditions don't help. Who knows what the average health was in Wuhan, Italy, Spain or Iran. But bad health sure don't help getting sick or surviving.


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Re: Latest Democrat Scam [Re: pogo] #604691
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https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com...-on-data-on-pandemic-infections-by-race/

AOC wants the data, and so does A. Pressley who is also a squad member.That's 2 of 4.The data w/b used politically as the article indicates. AOC is already showing that in her demands for Covid reparations if you can believe it.Nobody s/bother spending a minute or a dollar on tracking this down when there is so much other demand on their time, and data is already available.

We already know that minority pops. w/b hit harder and where these case concentrations are.They're poorer, live less healthy lives and are more crowded.(And when you allow 70% of your kids to be born out of wedlock, you're exacerbating all of this.).You've provided a sample of that reality here. So what more do we need?

I agree that more resources s/b targeted to areas w/high caseload as I said before. That will automatically impact non-whites more, right? Or, we can say that such aid will have a disparate impact on black and brown.


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Re: Latest Democrat Scam [Re: mikezpen] #604693
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Hard to beat the gang association from blood types, right? A, B, one step from Bloods and Cripts. Or is it epidemiology collecting every piece of data they can think of. In order to control and defeat a plague. My daughter does it for chronic wasting disease among her deer farms. Also avian flu and rabies. The invasion of privacy tracking those sales is East German. It's what scientists do though.

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Re: Latest Democrat Scam [Re: mikezpen] #604715
10/04/2020 10:37
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I think we all understand why you go after foci of infection.
It's good for those infected or in greatest danger of being infected.
But tackling disease among a specific population helps everyone.
Any concentration is a breeding ground for general spread.

I note that PA with a population of about 12.8 million has 19,979 reported cases as of yesterday.
Ohio with a pop. of 11.7 million has 5,512. Perhaps PA is more worldly. They are now saying that US cases were mostly spread from Europe.(through genetic tracking, I didn't know that there was a difference)
So maybe they just had more visitors. I also note that Ohio's shelter in place order went in as of March 23. PA's went in as of April 1.
Do you remember that I credit our conservative Republican governor as having done an excellent job?
One order is obviously not all there is in way of explanation. Louisiana's order went into effect the same day as Ohio's. With a pop of 4,66 million they have had 18,283 cases.
But they were hard hit even before the order. Still I credit Mike DeWine as having done an excellent job.

The other day when asked at his daily press conference if there was an emergency plan as to who would get scarce resources, should we have to ration, he first stated that he did not expect that to happen but that the thought kept him awake at night.
He then said that the Ohio Hospital Association had convened a panel and issued a policy that day.
Here's what I appreciate. He said that medical ethicists and Doctors have struggled over this sort of question for years and that while he had not yet read the policy, it would probably be followed in Ohio.
And that This was not the sort of decision that politicians should make.



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Re: Latest Democrat Scam [Re: mikezpen] #604716
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I think we're mostly on the same side here. I aimed this thread at "some Democrats" (1st post)-the Squad and its ilk-not all of them.I think most governors w/direct the majority of the resources to cities where cases are concentrated.I'd think La.-N. Orleans-w/have had more visitors and more circulation than a place like Ohio.Maybe that's why they have more cases.

I still worry that politics is driving too much of the coronavirus issue and can affect outcomes.

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Re: Latest Democrat Scam [Re: mikezpen] #604718
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Men dying 2x women. Obviously a woman plot.


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5 red states still don't have stay at home orders. Make damn sure none of my tax dollars go towards helping their collapsed medical systems. Thoughts and prayers only.


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